On 09.11.2012, at 11:13, Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 8 November 2012 17:13, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On 08 Nov 2012, at 20:29, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I told you several time, do you think that a guy do not understand what is 
>>> a pointer because he does not know how to write it
>>> in C?
>>> Give a chance to professionals to learn. We are not talking about 
>>> explaining what is a pointer, but explaining the
>>> potential problems and challenges
>>> 
>>> With your reasoning, I should stop programming because there are so many 
>>> things that I did not learn in school
>>> and I would not have no chance to learn from this community. So with that 
>>> reasoning I should better stop working in Smalltalk
>>> and look for another language!
>> 
>> I think he meant it as a general warning ;-)
>> 
>> The things is, as long as its pure Smalltalk, you are protected by a very 
>> good dynamic type system that cannot really be broken, i.e. the object 
>> illusion is kept (bounds checking, blah blah …)
>> 
>> But once you start using C pointers, you can very easily do something wrong. 
>> It might be a very subtle error and it might not manifest itself 
>> immediately, alas there won't be a Debugger popping up, just a coredump.
>> 
>> Pharo is actually pretty/very stable in day to day use, it should stay that 
>> way.
>> 
> 
> yes, that what i meant. and without some practice in C, you are really
> lacking understanding that
> pointers is actually a mine field: one day you can walk safely,
> another day be blown up at first step.
> 
> and referencing "for dummies" was a popular books series like "windows
> for dummies" , etc,
> but not in a sense to show arrogance and disrespect to Max. Sorry Max,
> if that offended you.

Thanks Igor, apology accepted. 

> 
> So, what i meant to say, there is certainty will be no such book like
> "NativeBoost for dummies".
> You cannot enter this field without having certain background or preparation.

Agreed. 
I think we can close this topic now :)

Cheers,
Max

> 
> 
> 
>> Sven
>> 
>> --
>> Sven Van Caekenberghe
>> http://stfx.eu
>> Smalltalk is the Red Pill
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko.
> 


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