On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:

> Yes that would be the ideal case, but the limited space on our old brittle 
> jenkins
> made our system very fragile.
> 
> We could only keep a couple of versions of each build. 
> Result?
> We lost the stable builds, hence I started to backup files in the easiest way 
> possible,
> on a dumb file server.
> 
> How could we have avoided the current mess? 
> Simply by moving early enough to the right infrastructure half a year ago 
> would have saved
> us many burnt brain cells.

Yes I totally agree!

> So I naturally get upset if all of a sudden everything has to work out of the 
> blue.


I understand and you pushed a lot. Now for 2.0 we should get to the next level. 


> We left the old jenkins in ruins and we are building the new one ad-hoc. 
> There is no
> going back as the old server is simply dead, besides our admins are clueless 
> about the
> crashes, taking random reboots as a good habit.
> 
> So I expect that YOU take your time to look at the new setup


yes but do not alex or a guys with two months of pharo to do it and during our 
great sprint some smart guys 
just not even got 1 months of pharo. 


> and understand it.

Yes do you think that I'm doing nothing - just relaxing in chile :)
Now I'm sick and I promote Pharo and I talk with people of govermental agencies 
during meetings in spanish to 
sell projects and give job to people :). 

Now we are not talking about me but the outside world. You know rmod not.


> If I had to take a look at our budget I would do the same, of course with my 
> amount
> if complaint because I would not know your private system…

Our team budget is freely accessible to you. This is just that you never needed 
to look at it.
Because your salary is not on our budget :). So you are safe :)

Stef



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