On 15 April 2013 15:58, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>
> Am 15.04.2013 um 15:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>:
>
>>
>> On 15 Apr 2013, at 15:07, "Sean P. DeNigris" <s...@clipperadams.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
>>>> the little fact that it is incremental - it updates and saves the same
>>>> image based on 1 metacello configuration - is really a stroke of genius.
>>>> It saves an enormous amount of time as in the past I always did a complete
>>>> build from scratch. Updating servers is now really a joy.
>>>
>>> Sounds great! And, I don't exactly understand ;) Can you say more about 
>>> that feature?
>>
>> Building a new image goes like this
>>
>> $ ./vm.sh Pharo.image save test
>>
>> $ ./vm.sh test.image config http://mc.stfx.eu/XXX ConfigurationOfBetaNineT3 
>> --install=bleedingEdge --username=XXX --password=XXX
>>
>> The Pharo.image is 'empty' as far as your own code is concerned, the config 
>> loads lots of dependencies. A build takes 10 minutes or so.
>>
>> But the next time, you can do only the second part
>>
>> $ ./vm.sh test.image config http://mc.stfx.eu/XXX ConfigurationOfBetaNineT3 
>> --install=bleedingEdge --username=XXX --password=XXX
>>
>> The test.image contains all your project specific code, and loading the 
>> config just checks all dependencies and only loads what has changed, 
>> incrementally. It only takes some 10s of seconds.
>>
>> It never occurred to me that this was the way to go, but the config handler 
>> does it by default. Maybe it is just me, but I had the impression that 
>> everybody (including CIs) always built from scratch (more or less, there 
>> were staged systems), while it is actually quite practical to keep on 
>> updating the same image for a much faster turn around.
>>
> This is less reliable than building from scratch. If you only build your own 
> packages without a lot of external packages that might go well. If there are 
> external dependencies it can even be that not loading it from scratch will 
> get you a different package set installed in your image afterwards. So you 
> should build from scratch from time to time anyway.
>
> For the config handler I don't see a reason why a config option should 
> overwrite the existing image by default. Without extra options I don't even 
> see why the image should shutdown after loading the config. Is it how it is? 
> That looks like there are too many assumptions taken from the commandline 
> handlers.
>

Well, as i understand , Camillo took most often used practice and
implemented it in code to make repeatable tasks less tedious and
straightforward.
Nevertheless, i think you raising valid questions.

> Norbert

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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.

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