Guess on a different runtime need:

I had this VW Launcher for my own play in 2003 - 2004...  on windows

Similar needs, but different implementation:

* Contained a base VW image with all mostly used base code loaded saved
* The vwnt.exe
* Through the inno setup configured this to be invoked when clicking *.pcl
files in windows

Usage:

* Download a *.pcl file that is a complete application ( with config for
prereq pcls if required )
* Open the vwnt.exe with the pcl as the input param to load first and run a
predefined startUp method.

Thereafter once I delivered the base package, found it easier to deliver
upgrade bits.. either as cumulative or delta (.pcl for vw ) ..


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This would be nice for Pharo too from an end user perspective of a
delivered app. Deliver a few KB to few 100 KB fuel code package/ mcz file
and it automatically links and opens with the pharo.exe in dev / runtime
mode ( without dev tools) as configured..

But as I realized over few years for above...

a) Like in Java, will have to deal with version issues...for the launcher
package
b) Identifying basic packages, optimizing startup time is a bit of challenge
c) Duplicate , package version issues.. would come up eventually...

But despite this all, I feel for the runtime deliverable experience,
simplified I have this mcz, click and run experience would be nice to get
school kids interested.. if not many others in IT cos too.

>From a web Pharo Marketplace for instance if we have several apps ( just
mcz files.. ) that are download, click and run on a pharo runtime.. without
having any other overheads but few to 100's of KBs could be nicer..






On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobr...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On 2013-04-24, at 09:01, Damien Cassou <damien.cas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Serge Stinckwich
> > <serge.stinckw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Nice initiative ! There was already something similar done by
> >> a korean guy: HwaJong Oh (https://twitter.com/Daliot )
> >> called Pharo Launcher that works only for mac os x.
> >
> >
> > yes, there has been many initiatives around that. But I think we
> > should make something more powerful and cross-platform. I want people
> > to click the 'Pharo' icon and get the full power. People should stop
> > thinking about the vm + the image + the changes + the sources...
> > That's too much
>
> Exactly! .sources and .changes will be gone pretty soon anyway ;)
> But yeah, providing premade images (as services) is a necessity!
>
> Most people here have scripts to download the latest image and install
> their presets, that clearly shows that a launcher with template images,
> much as templates in any other software, really is the way to go!
>
>

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