But practically, when are you interested to query existence of a global
which is not a class?
Concerning asClass, it does not resolve anything, how do you specify the
environment?
Will it be included into the String and decoded? 'MyEnvironment.MyClass'
asClass?
What if you don't provide a fully qualified string?
2013/5/2 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com>
> asGlobalOrSomethingLikeThat :-)
>
> -- Pavel
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM, stephane ducasse <
> stephane.duca...@free.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 2, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Frank Shearar <frank.shea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > What's "global"? Even if you haven't implemented scoped environments,
>> > rather use a name that doesn't imply that you'll never have scoped
>> > environments.
>>
>> :)
>> this is why I proposed asClass
>>
>> Now asGlobal can be interpreted as as globally accessible stuff.
>>
>>
>> > #asClass sounds better, except for Guillermo's point about well-known
>> > things that aren't classes.
>> >
>> > frank
>> >
>> > On 2 May 2013 09:31, Nicolas Cellier <
>> nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Sounds a bit like VW #{ }
>> >>
>> >> This sounds good to me, but don't use globalBinding, I would expect
>> this one
>> >> to answer the binding (Asociation) rather than the value.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/5/2 Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02 May 2013, at 06:03, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi, all
>> >>>>
>> >>>> do not think that i am drunk or vent crazy, asking such silly
>> >>>> question, which at best should be asked only by beginner :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I know the answer:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Smalltalk at: #SomeName
>> >>>>
>> >>>> or
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Smalltalk globals at: #SomeName
>> >>>>
>> >>>> what stroke me, just now, that both answers is wrong!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It should be:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> #SomeName asGlobal
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (or suggest more appropriate/precise method name for a symbol)
>> >>>
>> >>> ConfigurationOfXYZ globalValue project bleedingEdge load.
>> >>>
>> >>> ConfigurationOfXYZ globalValueIfPresent: [ :configuration |
>> configuration
>> >>> project bleedingEdge load ]
>> >>>
>> >>> An alternative could be globalBinding, but that is more technical.
>> >>>
>> >>> #asGlobal sounds like a conversion, on the other hand it is an
>> accepted
>> >>> idiom.
>> >>>
>> >>>> optionally, we could also have one, with handling absent case:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> #SomeName asGlobalIfAbsent: []
>> >>>>
>> >>>> same , but only if present:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> #SomeName asGlobalIfPresent: [:global | ]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Currently, there is 941 references to 'Smalltalk' global in my pharo
>> >>>> image.
>> >>>> If we introduce this convenience method, it will shrink this number
>> >>>> considerably,
>> >>>> not saying that code will be more elegant and concise compare:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (Smalltalk globals at: #Foo) doSomething
>> >>>>
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>
>> >>>> #Foo asGlobal doSomething
>> >>>>
>> >>>> P.S. What really strikes me is why we don't have such method from
>> very
>> >>>> beginning,
>> >>>> and instead refer to 'Smalltalk' all over the places.
>> >>>> Some things are so deeply indoctrinated in our minds, that we don't
>> >>>> even think that it can be different.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Best regards,
>> >>>> Igor Stasenko.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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