On May 13, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Edouard Klein wrote:
> Le 13/05/12 14:33, Benjamin a écrit :
>>
>> On May 13, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 13, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Edouard Klein wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I tried to build my first user interface with Pharo. I ran into some
>>>> problems, I have a bunch of questions. These are certainly quite simple to
>>>> answer for any veteran... If any of you could so kind as to not only
>>>> answer them but also to tell me where I sould have looked for the answer,
>>>> this would be awesome.
>>>>
>>>> I used Pharo By Example as well as the pharocasts and the occasional
>>>> google search to find info.
>>>>
>>>> My code can be found at : http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MakeMeASandwich.html
>>>>
>>>> - I build the UI by hand, this is tiresome. Is there a GUI UI builder ? I
>>>> found Morphic designer
>>>> (https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/designer)
>>>> and UIBuilder
>>>> (http://forum.world.st/CLFramework-UIBuilder-td1302485.html) but it is
>>>> unclear if any or both are the Right Way (tm) of doing things with Pharo.
>>>
>>> So far there is not easy solution. We are working on Spec but we should
>>> stabilize it first.
>>>
>>> Did you check UITheme examples?
>>>
>>>> - As you can see if you do RecipeEditor new open, there is a lot of wasted
>>>> space. Lists do not expand to take all the vertical space they could. What
>>>> is the workaround for that ?
>>>>
>>>> - I have a list created by :
>>>> nodeList := ListModel new list: SortedCollection new.
>>>> put on screen by :
>>>> builder newListFor: self list: #nodeList selected: #selectedNodeIndex
>>>> changeSelected: #selectNodeAtIndex: help: 'Liste des étapes'.
>>>> and I use :
>>>> nodeList list at: (nodeList selectionIndex)
>>>> on the press of a button to get the selected element of a list. I would
>>>> like this list to allow for multiple selection, and I would like to get
>>>> the list of selected elements. I tried to fool around with some methods
>>>> having "multiple" in their name, but to no avail.
>>>
>>> may be ben will be able to help you.
>>
>> I have actually never played with ListModel :s
>> But if you wanna play a bit with the morphs directly, I can help you (or if
>> you want to experiment Spec ;) )
>
>
> I would like to experiment Spec, but I am unable to install it. Shall I use
> Paro 2.0 ? (Currently using 1.4). I am not sure I tried the right methods.
> What should I do from a clean brand new image to install it ?
=========================================================
Gofer new
url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Spec';
package: 'ConfigurationOfSpec';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSpec) perform: #loadFull
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It works in 1.4 and in 2.0.
Then you could have a look at the category named Spec-Examples :)
If you want I have a really out dated doc, but I do not think it useful anymore
(but I will rewrite it soon).
And if you have questions, I will be glad to answer :)
Ben
>
>>
>> Sorry again, but have fun still,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> - The text fields require the user to accept (command-S) the modification
>>>> before I can get the content with getText. Is there a good way to get the
>>>> non accepted text ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried to to an UI with tk before, and compared to that it has been a
>>>> breeze with Smalltalk, the way one can write the highest level call and
>>>> then use the debugger to create methods and variables on the fly is very
>>>> enjoyable.
>>>
>>> We really have to improve because I'm not satisfied with the current state
>>> but we want to get it right.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Edouard.
>>>>
>>>
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