On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Hubert Wagner wrote:

> Hello Stephane :
> Thank you for the welcome message.
> 
>> Second: our goal is to create an ecosystem around pharo...if you 
>> have...needs for business or anything else just let us know. 
> 
> 
> I'm a Mac OSX user and newcomer to SmallTalk and to Pharo. I have an 
> uncomfortable feeling my question may entirely miss some significant point, 
> whatever that is.
> 
> I'm puzzled why the only SmallTalk I've found which runs on the Mac, namely 
> VisualWorks, has a GUI painter. However, compared to Xcode or even RealBasic 
> (or Hypercard for that matter), the GUI painter seems remarkably primitive, 
> given the length of time VisualWorks and SmallTalk, in general, have been 
> under development.  

Lack of vision?
For Pharo we were just busy fixing so many things but this is on our roadmap.
Now with a UIBuilder you have 
        - placing widgets 
        - creating ***reusable*** widgets with logic reuse
VW is supporting that.
And we are working on that part too with Spec. 


> An up-to-date GUI builder with well designed, native widgets seems to me to 
> be a prerequisite for a working software development application. Being 
> required, for example, to program a button from scratch takes one back to the 
> early days of personal computing.
> 
> What is preventing the various SmallTalks from offering a modern GUI painter? 

for us this is money, give me 5 engineers full time and Pharo will not look 
like Pharo anymore :).

PS: Smalltalk and not SmallTalk

> 
> My Best Wishes for Pharo and SmallTalk :
> Hubert Wagner, France 


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