Just a side-note: according to Wikipedia article [1] there are already
some commercial PaaS providers based on CloudFork:

- Uhuru Software, Inc. is one company that has created a AppCloud
  using Cloud Foundry. Uhuru's PaaS provides support for multiple
  frameworks (.NET, Rails, and Spring) and languages (Java, Ruby, PHP,
  and C#).
- AppFog hosts their PaaS on Amazon Web Services, OpenStack and Windows
  Azure.[1] [2]
- ActiveState is a company that has created a commercial distribution
  of the Cloud Foundry software for enterprises to host their own
  private PaaS. Their product has support for additional languages and
  frameworks, an adds a dashboard and security protocols.[3]
- Tier 3 is a company that has created an Enterprise-oriented PaaS
  combining Cloud Foundry with their Iron Foundry OSS Project that
  provides .NET and SQL Server Support.

About commercial cloudfoundry.com: As of September 2012, this service is
still in beta and pricing is not yet determined.

So, question is, what are long-term VMware plans with CloudFoundry, and
in this light, maybe supporting another provider like proposed OpenShift
is not a bad idea, for many reasons:

- more experience will be gained running on the another cloud
- more general PhaaS, which can run on more than one cloud
- more independent of cloud providers

Best regards
Janko

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Foundry


Dne 27. 01. 2013 12:51, piše Andy Burnett:
>>> .
>>
>> I built CloudFoundry so that you uploaded a .st file (in my ESUG example it 
>> was 'aida.st') that was used to build the image. The server executed the .st 
>> file and saved the resulting image (it could load .mcz files directly or 
>> execute a Metacello script). Whenever your application was needed, a copy of 
>> the saved image was used.
>>
>> James Foster
> 
> James, can I check a few assumptions - I want to make sure I am not
> putting words in VMWare's mouth, or missing an opportunity.
> 
> 1. Is it the case that CloudFoundry.com has no current plans to offer
> gemstone as a hosted option?
> 
> 2. Your work on getting Aida to run was targeted at the
> cloudfoundry.org, And therefore it would require someone to set up a
> separate hosting operation - using the cloudfoundry code - in order
> for us to use your work?
> 
> If 1 and 2 are true, is there anyway that we can use the  .com side in
> pursuit of this PhaaS objective? I assume not, but I would hate to
> miss the simple fix :-)
> 
> Cheers
> Andy
> 
> 

-- 
Janko Mivšek
Aida/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

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