On 13 Jun 2013, at 22:07, Guillermo Polito <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wait, ppa:pharo/stable is version NBCoInterpreter 
> NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19?
> 
> Sven, from your email I understood that the vm versions are in the same order 
> as the measures, is that so?

Yes they are: 

./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vm is fast (and older)

pharo-vm-x from pap:pharo/stable is slow (and newer)

./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vmLatest is also slow (and newer)

> Guille
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Guillermo Polito 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the check 
> we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put this in 
> my todo for the weekend :/.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
> 
> $ ./pharo-ui --version
> 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: 
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: 
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> 
> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 
> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200 By: 
> Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> Jenkins build #14595
> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45 UTC 
> 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni <[email protected]> wrote:
> thanks for the insight. I opened an issue: 
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
> 
> 
> can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
> 
> On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
> >
> > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm) II X4
> > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
> >
> > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455 1420
> >
> > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535 11156
> >
> > That is a 10x slowdown !
> >
> > Here are the VM details:
> >
> > $ ./pharo-ui -version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100
> > By: Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> Jenkins build #14535
> > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59
> > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > $ pharo-vm-x --version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> > By: Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> Jenkins build #14595
> > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
> > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
> >> 13.04 64bit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
> >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> >>>> From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
> >>>> with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
> >>>> was: 134ms
> >>>>
> >>>> Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
> >> 163ms
> >>>>
> >>>> Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
> >>>> was: 1918ms
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM was:
> >> 152 ms
> >>> Further research:
> >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
> >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
> >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 164
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>   Markus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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