Hi,
On 2015-01-22 16:27, horrido wrote:
Offray wrote
I think that SRP has a "flaw" of showing itself as some kind of way to
save Smalltalk of its unpopular destiny, not being on top 10 of TIOBE
or
being a niche platform, but for me that's not a cruel destiny and if
it
were that's not the best way to fight against it, but by building
stuff
that more people can use. Talking by making instead of talking by
talking. We can start with some small community and spread from there
(interactive documentation is my approach).
This is the popular "if you build it, they will come" philosophy. It
/may/
work, but I seriously doubt it.
No. I don't believe in the build -> come assumption. Is more like
non-popular but meaninful in the context I care about by the
transformations it empowers on that context and with the potential to go
beyond that context. Think small, but interconnected.
So may be the best way of SRP to serve Smalltalk could be to not be so
"self-serving" about its own goals (popularity, jvm, javascript,
enterprise, TIOBE) and show the diversity of views and concerns of the
Smalltalk community. To be a place for diversity in Smalltalk (may be
a
curator of dispersed experiences elsewhere).
I don't understand what you mean by "self-serving". The SRP does not
serve
itself – it serves *you*, the Smalltalk community. It's sole purpose is
to
promote your language, to raise it in the public consciousness, to get
people to try it. There is no other agenda.
Of course, whether or not you /want/ this attention is a different
question.
I mean self-serving in the sense that is about making Smalltalk popular,
advocating for enterprise, jvm or javascript, which are goals traced by
the project itself. I don't think that they're not important (at least
for some in the community), but I think that they don't reflect the
various concerns and potentials that can help to Smalltalk as a broader
community.
Trying to listen the community __before__ tracing the goals for SRP is
my main message here. A more "etnographer" approach instead of the
"saleman" one, if I can make the analogy.
Cheers,
Offray
