Nice idea!
I think that we should have a Pharo-bugs mailing list that gets notified for each bug that is filled in fogbugz

2015-03-21 4:54 GMT-03:00 kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>>:


    Bottom line is that reporting a problem in the mailing list first
    makes much more sense because

    a) Way more likely to get an answer
    b) Avoid adding to the list on non existent bugs in fogbugz
    c) Bring the bug if it really exists to the attention of more
    people, hence increase that chance of the bug getting a fix.
    d) Far easier to remind people of the bug later on by just bumping
    on the thread which everyone on the list will get notified
    compared to fogbugz that if you are not subscribed to a bug you
    wont be notified.

    So yes definitely want to discourage people from starting from
    fogbugz. Also personally I dont like fogbugz because its so isolated.

    On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com
    <mailto:b...@openinworld.com>> wrote:





            On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink
            <shei...@yahoo.de <mailto:shei...@yahoo.de>> wrote:

                Hi,

                I recently mentioned issues with the installation of
                the pharo-launcher on Windows 8.1

                Turned out I just needed to download the
                PharoV30.sources file and place into the installation
                folder.

                Now everything seems fine.

                Is this also a topic for the pharo bug list, or is
                there another place where I can mention this?

                Sebastian

            On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, kilon alios
            <kilon.al...@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                there is also an options in settings that downloads
                and install sources for you automagically.

                This is the right place to report issues and if you
                are 100% sure its a bug you can report it also in the
                pharo fogbuz



        100% is a bit strong and sounds a bit discouraging :).    As
        long as you can list the detailed steps reproduce the problem,
        then its worth putting in fogbugz.  However fogbugz has a lot
        of old issues and sometimes a new issue is like a lost tree in
        the forrest.   Its generally beneficial if you socialise it on
        the mail list as well.

        A good workflow is:
        1. Search fogbugz for similar issues.
        2. Ask on the mail list if its a known issue, or if you should
        create a new one. List your steps to reproduce and ideally a
        solution.
        3. Log a new issue on fogbugz, copying the mail list
        discussion there. Paste the link back to the mail list thread.

        So in general:
        * the mail list has a broader audience and gets a better triage
        * fogbugz tracks history to ensure it doesn't get lost - and
        nothing happens except what goes through the tracker.  (btw,
        set Project=Launcher)

        cheers -ben




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