Let us know how it goes!

Alexandre


> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay, with that definition of class model. That is already done. This 
> database, and I am using that term loosely is all in the image, in object 
> collections. It will only contain a few 100 or 1000 items. I don't see a need 
> at the moment to involve MongoDB or some other outside source. I will have an 
> export/import mechanism for data safety.
> 
> There at the moment is no data because there is no data entry that my wife 
> can use. Which is why I am inquiring so that I can begin to build her a UI to 
> begin data entry.
> 
> Yes, I understand there could be much trial and error in building the UI. For 
> me for this personal project, I am okay with that. I count that as part of my 
> education. Along with any other of the many mistakes that I make that I can 
> encounter.
> 
> I am fully aware that I will potentially do my fair share of stupid while 
> learning. The only cost here is my time. I am okay with that price. Hopefully 
> at some point I will get better.
> 
> So with that said, any pointers to building a data entry UI.
> 
> Labels, fields, combobox, buttons, ...
> 
> I could do this in a web form without to much problem. Which was somewhat I 
> was exploring in my Pier question. But I thought I would give learning UI 
> building in Pharo a try. It seems that GT is where UI things are moving. Just 
> a perception. I could be wrong. If possible I prefer going with the future as 
> opposed to legacy at this point.
> 
> And ultimately I might end up going with a web ui, client server setup. But I 
> would still like to know my in image UI options and where to learn. I have 
> other projects I want to do.
> 
> Thanks for engaging in the conversation. I appreciate your time and 
> understanding.
> 
> Jimmie
> 
> 
> On 09/24/2015 03:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>> I can see navigating, visualization and querying. But what about adding, 
>>> editing and removing objects? Is GT the wrong tool for this aspect?
>> No, Glamour offer ways to easily build an UI. My advice is to not focus too 
>> much on the UI aspect at the beginning of your project. The reason is that 
>> the UI is very fragile during the inception of a project: UI changes quickly 
>> and are time-consuming to produce.
>> 
>>> I am not clear on the class-model. Information or pointers to documentation 
>>> would be great.
>> What I meant is the following. If you have a data base table that has the 
>> following column titles:
>> name,parent,age,location,country
>> 
>> Then maybe you can define a class Person, with one instance variable to a 
>> parent, another for a location. You can have a class City with a name and 
>> the country in which the city is.
>> This is what I meant by having a class model.
>> Once you have this, all the machinery is nearly free.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Alexandre
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Jimmie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/24/2015 01:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>> The way I see GT, is that you do not need to think too much about GUI. One 
>>>> very first step is to build a class-model to describes the data stored in 
>>>> your data base. Once you have this class-model, then navigating, 
>>>> visualization, and querying come literally for free.
>>>> 
>>>> Does this make sense? Do you need help to define the class-model?
>>>> 
>>>> Alexandre
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Alexandre,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have added moose-dev to this reply.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not at this time have any particular object models that I require 
>>>>> exploring. I have simply watched the videos on the browser, inspector, 
>>>>> etc.. Most anything Doru did. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am wanting to put a GUI together for a database I am building for my 
>>>>> wife. At this point it is simple and will be all contained in the image. 
>>>>> This is a pretty conventional thing at this moment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have done nothing GUI oriented in Pharo and I need to learn those 
>>>>> skills. GT seems to be an awesome tool enabling very creative things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At a later date I will have some more adventurous things to try. But my 
>>>>> wife's database is where I want to begin learning.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jimmie
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/24/2015 01:11 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jimmie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Question about GT should be sent to the moose mailing list.
>>>>>> What do you have in mind with GT? Do you have an object model to explore?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have watched most all of the videos about GT.
>>>>>>> I am interested in learning how to use the Glamorous Toolkit.
>>>>>>> I am failing to find a beginning place for learning how to use and 
>>>>>>> program GT.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am probably overlooking it some where.
>>>>>>> I have downloaded the gtoolkit.image to begin learning.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am currently browsing code to learn what I can from there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any advise on documentation or best way to proceed in learning GT 
>>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jimmie
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
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