> On Apr 12, 2016, at 10:51, Alistair Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 09:02:52PM +0200, Serge Stinckwich wrote: >> Thank you. I was talking about your experience with Pharo :-) >> But your description is nice also. > > Ahh, right, sorry about that. > > Pharo 5.0 first impressions from someone coming from VW2.5... > > I'm already a fan of Smalltalk and its development environment. I've > only spent a few hours working with Pharo (it's my hobby, with not > nearly as much time as I would like): > > * I read the first few chapters of Pharo by Example as an introduction > to Pharo. > * The browser, debugger and basic inspectors are all familiar enough > that I was able to work with them without any issues. > * I'm glad that being able to run headless mode is easy, as I'd like to > use Pharo for scripting. > * The addition of Montacello / Metacello / Gofer and SUnit are the > biggest improvements I've noticed so far. I wish I had these 20 years > ago. > * I've only played with the MessageFlow Browser a little, but I think it > will be one of my go-to tools. > * I'm still getting used to the idea of the entire ST environment being > in a single OS window, but at the moment I think I prefer VW's > approach where each ST window is a OS window, as it makes it easier to > work with other applications, e.g. if I want to look at an email or > web page while working within ST. > > I only have one suggested improvement so far (assuming it doesn't > already exist and I just haven't found it yet)... When searching for > packages on SqueakSource / SmalltalkHub etc. it isn't clear to me how > much confidence I can have in any given package, which is really useful > if there are multiple packages providing similar functionality. > > The Arch Linux model seems pretty good to me. Official packages are in > the core or extra repositories, which matches what is included in the > Pharo image. The next level is a community repository, which contains > packages maintained by Trusted Users. General users can be confident > that these packages will be kept up to date. The last level is the User > Repository (AUR), which anyone can contribute to. The AUR includes a > comment section and vote count, and general users can add or remove > their vote.
I'd like to see something like this too. > > Hope I haven't ruffled too many feathers... > > Thanks! > Alistair >
