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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 06:11, Dimitris Chloupis <[email protected]> wrote: > > there was one claim you made in that post that got me thinking > > ""No one else knows Smalltalk." > > So I wonder how many developers amount to "no one". > > Now my data is questionable to say the least but I dont think I am very far > from the truth. > > According to a quick estimate I found online there are 18.500.000 developers > , around half of that are pros > Now Tiobe Index has some numbers about language popularity, widely disputed > but I will use that. Unfortunately Smalltalk does not even make top 50 but I > think its close to that because it used to be in the top 50 of Tiobe Index > once .... so .... 50th is around 0,4% which means that smalltalk is probably > at least 0.1% Now if we multiply with the total amount of developers > > No | Name of Language | Percentage of Popularity | Amount of total develpers > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1) Java 13% = 2.405.000 > 2) C 6,5% = 1.202.500 > 3) C++ 5,5% = 1.017.500 > 4) C# 4,2% = 777.000 > 5) Python 3,7% = 684.500 > 6) VB .NET 2,6% > 7) PHP 2,3% > 8) Javascript 2,1% > 9) Pearl 2% > 10) Ruby 2% > 11) Swift 1,8% > 12) Delphi 1,8% > 13) Visual Basic 1,8% > 14) Assembly 1,8% > 15) R 1,8% > 16) Go 1,7% > 17) Matlab 1,6% > 18) Objective C 1,5% > 19) Scratch 1,5 % > 20) Dart 1,3% > 26) Cobol 1% = 185.000 > 28) Scala 0,9% > 31) Erlang 0,7% > 34) Lisp 0,7% > 35) Fortan 0,7% > 36) Lua 0,7% > 47) Haskell 0,5% > 120) Smalltalk 0,1% = 18.500 > > I made up the position of smalltalk and its percentage but if you see how > percentages are from language to language you will have to agree that I > cannot be very far. > So the bad news is the sources are questionable to say the least the good > news is however that we are close to the truth because the Python devs have > also reported 1 million users. Now if this is so close to the truth that > means two massively important things. I also know for a fact that on its > popular days Delphi used to also have 1 million devs so its percentage is > close to reality as well. The general picture is that the math at least seems > to hold up. > > So what is the conclusion out of this ? > > 1) The vast majority of the popular languages , apart from Java, are not > anywhere near as popular as they imply. Especially Javascript with only 300k > developer , by the noise they generate you would believe they are like 300 > million. Once you leave the top 5 , pretty much every language is very close. > 2) 18.500 is nowhere near close to "no one" its actually closer to a small > town or a very large village. So definitely a significant amount of Smalltalk > devs. > 3) Coders use pretty much every language out there and they do not > concentrate on few popular ones > > On the other hand there are all sort of numbers online , one source gives > Java over 6 million devs. But I do not think that the exact matter matters > rather the general picture. > > I have found the whole thing mind blowing to say the least and it completely > reduces the meaning of "language popularity" showing that judging the > popularity of the language by the noise it generates on the net is definitely > a terrible metric. > > I am willing to bet that Pharo has around 3-6.000 users which is definitely > not bad. > > Thank you for opening my eyes, I will from now on fight the illusion of > language popularity. > > Oh yes I loved your post, very well written, excellent work > >> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 9:24 PM sergio ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hey, all.. >> >> I just released a blog entry entitled: >> >> "Why I chose Pharo Smalltalk to build my Bot project" >> >> which can be viewed here: >> >> http://www.codeandmusic.com/why-i-chose-pharo-smalltalk-to-build-my-bot/?utm_content=buffera7148&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer >> >> I would appreciate (and probably create new posts about) any input.. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> ---- >> peace, >> sergio >> photographer, journalist, visionary >> >> Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 >> #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV >> http://www.Village-Buzz.com >> http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com >> http://www.coffee-black.com >> http://www.painlessfrugality.com >> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 >> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
