Actually you need to read the small letters bellow the graph "% of developers who are developing with the language or technology and have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it"
which means basically "Smalltalkers love Smalltalk !!!|" . Actually I am surpised its only 67% of Smalltalkers that actually love Smalltalk and that Rust comes first. I was expecting a 90%. But then Rust has been the most hyped language these past few years. But does not change the fact that maybe 99% of the coders have not even heard of Smalltalk and a 60% of Rust. The bottom line is that the excuses for not using a language can no longer stand in 2017 (1) But I wont find coders for it (2) But I wont find libraries for it (3) But I wont find documentation for it Let's take (1) , why you even need to find someone that already knows the language? Do we realise there are people with zero coding experience that have made built milti million dollar empires . Almost 2 decades ago I remember reading about q surfer that loved to surf but also made surf boards. So inside his naiveness said "well let's make an e-shop" and he made alone one of the first e-shops selling surf boards and he made millions. So we have this guy that knows nothing about coding, I think I remember him saying that he did not even know how to use a computer before, on one side that in a period of few years has made a multi million dollars software. On the other side we have experienced coders, that most likely have battled with code bases of millions of lines of code , university degree, masters and doctorate and they cannot do what a surfer did ? Seriously.... (2) That's my favourite , libraries. We live in 2017 when even my grandmother's language run on JVM and has JS compiler and we still debate libraries availability ? Seriously. You can use ANY library from ANY language and is not even hard. I made Pharo use Python libraries and it took me a few hundreds lines of code just to make a simple socket bridge. (3) This one is the most logical, even when I i started coding in Pharo and to be fair Pharo was still on very early releases there was minimal documentation and the one I found was outdated. Still no problemo, I am a coder, I can read code. You will be reading tons and tons of code anyway, documentation in any language will never take you far. Why ? Because the vast majority of users prefer the easy and generic features. A minority of people dive deep into a library and the ones they do rare document it. You are more likely to find specialised information in mailing and forums than in documentation documents. Of course even there you may get no answer so you end up testing and learning yourself. Wont mattter even if it is Java. Plus there are tons and ton of project made in languages very unpopular that did great, Ruby On Rails is an example. One library it was all it took to put Ruby on map. Even C was introduce through the Unix operating system. New language, out of nowhere and wait those people using an unknown language wanted to make one of the best OSes of all time. So no, even though I rarely get into a language debate because of how religious people , there is no for not using Pharo but any unpopular language out there. Because in the end what it will matter the most is the determination of the coder to output efficient code. If you are passionate about something nothing can stop you and especially these bad excuses. Pretty much the most important ingredient for any very successful software product. On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:37 AM Paulo R. Dellani <dell...@pobox.com> wrote: > I also do not believe my eyes: > > > https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2017#most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted > > > On 10/20/2017 10:20 AM, Marten Feldtmann wrote: > > I do not want to spoil the party (perhaps I've done this already) - but > > has anyone done a serious inspection of this number: 67%. > > > > They have interviewed 64000 persons and 67% of the people should "love" > > Smalltalk? Come on, that seems to be not possible. Perhaps 67% of the > > user already using Smalltalk "love" that. > > > > By the way - the most loved platform is Linux (69%) ... > > > > > > Marten > > > > Am 20.10.2017 um 09:19 schrieb Paulo R. Dellani: > > > >> The second most loved language by 67% of developers surveyed cannot > simply > >> be ruled out because of unfounded concerns. (Thanks again for the > > > > >
