> On 9 Nov 2017, at 14:22, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 
> <offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
> 
> Sophie looked very promising... Unfortunately it was not open source and died 
> before porting it to Java (following the Illuminati conspiracy of porting 
> Smalltalk break througts to "inferior" technology, as happens once and again 
> :-P).
> 
> 
Sophie was one of the reason I got so, umm, upset? about Squeak… I mean even 
though the project failed, the results where on a level that
they could have been used to improve Squeak quite radically. All the base 
technology was more or less finished and working 
(maybe a bit complex at times, cf. Tweak…).

I still do not understand why everyone back then had this “Squeak is 
untouchable, you can only build on top or you are an evil person” view
of the world.

Just imagine the people who did Sophie would have done their work by 
*contributing* to Squeak in a serious way (in the sense of evolving it into the 
next
thing). The resulting system would have been amazing. 

The fact that Sophie failed as a project would have been not important *at all*.
You could finance an amazing platform by just doing failed projects. As long as 
you do them open source and feed back the results.

The same happened with everything Etoys, with everything Croquet. And even 
though there where people working on all these things
at the same time. To me this is a mystery. It made no sense, at all. 

        Marcus

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