Shortcuts have long been a thorn for Pharo, the lack of global state and
the fact that are hard coded. Colors and Themes had the same issue and it
was the effort Esteban who wanted to bring the dark theme that really
changed this. I suspect like Theme these are legacy Squeak stuff that are
not easy to fix.

Ideally shortcuts should be fully customisable with preset support
accessible from Pharo user settings. This way for example a vim user could
implement his own set of keys after his favorite editor. It would be nice
if that became a target for Pharo 7 or at least Pharo 8. No Pharo tool
should be allowed to manage its own shortcuts , not even third party tools.



On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:18 PM Norbert Hartl <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> > Am 07.07.2018 um 17:08 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. <
> [email protected]>:
> >
> >> Le 07/07/2018 à 16:17, Ben Coman a écrit :
> >> Any seeming agreement may just have been the nay-sayers falling silent
> since
> >> there seemed little chance of having it changed when it came as a
> >> done-deal with Nautilus.
> >> Personally I tried to conform to using the double-sequence-shortcuts
> >> but could never get over the cumbersome feel of it,
> >> to the point where in Nautlius I actually stopped using shortcuts and
> >> reverted to using context menus.
> >>
> >> I guess lovers of the double-sequence-shortcuts are now in that boat.
> >> I'm not sure there was much discussion around Calypso using
> >> single-key-shortcuts.
> >> But I'm personally very happy with this behaviour change introduced by
> >> Nautlius was reverted.
> >> I'm glad to using shortcuts in the System Browser again.
> >>
> > For my part I'm not because before I could delete/rename/add a
> > package/class/protocol/method without the mouse but now it became much
> > harder with simple key shortcut since it works only on the focused pane.
> >
> > But I guess this kind of things depend on everyone.
> >
> > Maybe it could be good to be able to customize it via settings.
> >
> I don‘t understand anyway why keyboard shortcuts are dependent on a tool.
> Shouldn‘t there be an abstraction mapping between action and shortcut?
>
> Norbert
> >> cheers -ben
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cyril Ferlicot
> > https://ferlicot.fr
> >
>
>
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