Hi,

I had a look: this works nicely!

I even found a way to automatically fall back to the method creation, so 

 nil doSomething

on create will create a method.

I have merged your code and will do a PR with the improvement later.

        Marcus

> On 30 Aug 2018, at 09:57, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks! I will have a look at the sprint tomorrow. 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Aug 2018, at 07:11, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve submitted a PR for what I did, so at least it improves the situation 
>> (but potentially could get even more refined as you suggest)
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>>> On 23 Aug 2018, at 11:26, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Aug 2018, at 15:56, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Marcus - that’s actually what I do - and “create” in this case, creates 
>>>> a class and then restarts like the method case does.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, that I saw.
>>> 
>>> But I mean a different case: Imagine you do have code like
>>> 
>>>     nil doSomething
>>> 
>>> or an expression that evaluates to nil, press “define” and get a method 
>>> definition dialog, not the error message?
>>> (it is, as I mentioned, not that important as nobody ever wants to define a 
>>> method in UndefinedObject, but for consistency it would be nice) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I guess I was wondering if we can do it more cleanly and also improve the 
>>>> debugger message. 
>>>> 
>>>> If I’ve understood you guys correctly- you try to remove the ambiguity 
>>>> around operations. Looking up a class and getting nil - seems like one of 
>>>> these holes you keep sorting out.
>>>> 
>>>> I think the flaw in my solution is understanding if that message was being 
>>>> sent to a class, or some other global? I dont think I got that bit right 
>>>> (but it’s certainly better than nothing).
>>>> 
>>>> e.g. in the debugger I am doing (in DoesNotUnderstandDebugAction) 
>>>> 
>>>> msg := self interruptedContext tempAt: 1.
>>>> (msg lookupClass == UndefinedObject ) ifTrue: [ 
>>>>    ^self createMissingClassIn: self interruptedContext ].
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not totally convinced that lookupClass has to be a class - although 
>>>> maybe its good enough. But really, at the time this happened - we probably 
>>>> knew better than to get a DNU debug action in the the first place - and 
>>>> equally the title in the debugger could be something more akin to the kind 
>>>> of action its supposed to be.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway - this is all musing on my part - and I will assemble a proper PR 
>>>> for review by you guys (and at least it advances us forward - and maybe 
>>>> opens the door to better changes further on).
>>>> 
>>>> I’m just juggling another change at the moment - so it will be a few days.
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Aug 2018, at 05:33, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 16:24, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi - but I guess my question is (and excuse my basic knowledge in this 
>>>>>> area) - when a class isn’t found - can we do better than return nil so 
>>>>>> that the debugger can give a better msg and presumably the code I’ve 
>>>>>> written could live on that undefined object? Or am  thinking about this 
>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> In pharo7 we could easily do that (due to the “binding”, the meta class 
>>>>> of the variable) being different. We could return a nil subclass or add 
>>>>> code into the method directly. But the problem with that is that nil 
>>>>> checks
>>>>> are always identity checks… 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could you not in the case you now raise the error just fall back to the 
>>>>> “define method”, the behaviour we have now? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will also put together a pr for this in Pharo 7 if you think it’s a 
>>>>>> decent fix.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 09:51, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I played with it, nice!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess the case when you really get a DNU on nil (and want to create  
>>>>>>> method there) does not really happen… extending nil is for special 
>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 13:39, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry Marcus - you needed to follow the exercism instructions and 
>>>>>>>> right click on the exercism package to get an exercism menu to fetch a 
>>>>>>>> new exercise (e.g. hello-world). The is then using the TonalReader to 
>>>>>>>> pull in code - and then you get a test class that can reference a 
>>>>>>>> class that isn’t there yet. (But you need to have the exercism cli 
>>>>>>>> installed as per the instructions etc).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In retrospect I think it might be simpler to download this 6.1 image 
>>>>>>>> that already has done that - 
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2ot9f8arbbvlyb/PharoExercism.zip?dl=0
>>>>>>>> It has TwoFerTest that is in that state. If you click on the  
>>>>>>>> TestWithName orb, you will see "#new was sent to nil” - can you can 
>>>>>>>> see how my Create button has been fixed per you suggestions to create 
>>>>>>>> a class. (The code I wrote is in 
>>>>>>>> ExercismTools:DoesNotUnderstandDebugAction>>createMissingClassIn:)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22 Aug 2018, at 04:44, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Aug 2018, at 14:20, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The direct link to instructions is here: 
>>>>>>>>>> https://exercism.io/tracks/pharo/installation (not sure if you have 
>>>>>>>>>> to be signed up to see it otherwise its in the repo here: 
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/exercism/pharo/blob/master/docs/INSTALLATION.md)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hm… AllExercismTests seems to not be there (just a green test in 
>>>>>>>>> Welcome)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is this supposed to contain the code below (the 
>>>>>>>>> createMissingClassActionFor:in:) ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have an image that shows exactly the problem (I 
>>>>>>>>> do not have  that much time sadly to work on it,but I do have some 
>>>>>>>>> time to check if I have an image that is set up to the point where i 
>>>>>>>>> can easily recreate the problem)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Aug 2018, at 07:17, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Aug 2018, at 13:00, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Marcus - I can put an image somewhere if that helps (do you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> just need the .image and .changes)?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you can repro from a fresh 6.1 if you follow the exercism Pharo 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions (https://exercism.io/tracks/pharo) to load the first 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hello world-world example and run the tests. This has my code 
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to make create work with a nil class - but maybe we can do 
>>>>>>>>>>>> better?
>>>>>>>>>>> I will do that and have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Aug 2018, at 06:21, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Aug 2018, at 23:16, Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually I think I figured that bit out - a bit clumsily - 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (pointers appreciated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> createMissingClassActionFor: aMessage in: aContext
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |errorNode senderContext newClass variableNode |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senderContext := aContext sender.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errorNode := senderContext method sourceNodeExecutedForPC: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senderContext pc. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variableNode := errorNode receiver receiver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newClass := OCUndeclaredVariableWarning new node: variableNode; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defineClass: variableNode name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aContext restart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However that last line is wrong, as it doesn’t restart with my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newly defined class - I also tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aContext restartWithNewReceiver: newClass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But again, I get a debugger where my class is still bound to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nil. So what’s the trick to re-evaluate with the new class I’ve 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created? Or maybe I’m totally on the wrong track (still its very 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting…)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is a bit bad is that you catch the problem “too late” (that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, the DNU to nil, not the read of nil), so nil is already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushed on the stack at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried it in the inspector and at least the class binding was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct after defining the class… do you have an image with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole code to try?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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