HI Yanni, Thanks for sharing your experience report!
Sven > On 27 Jul 2021, at 01:53, Yanni Chiu <yannix...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, very stable. I've had a DigitalOcean droplet running for 6 years > that was holding various false starts. To my surprise, one (never > "shipped") website was still running (Pharo-3.?, mongodb, Bootstrap > css). I'd been poking the site every once in a while, and found that > the Bootstrap UI steadily degraded, because I'd pointed the site's > .css at some non-fixed version from some CDN server (so that .css must > have changed over the years). The uptime on the machine was over 1000 > days, and there have been many emails over the years about network, > hardware, etc. changes. After years of unattended reboots, some relic > was still up. > > Anyhow, that instance is now deleted, probably soon to be joined by a > more recent setup where I started with the DO 1-click docker droplet. > This setup was useful to learn about docker, and I might go back to it > in the future. Given Estaban's comments in this thread, I decided to > do a bare nginx + Pharo image deployment (which is similar to the now > deleted 6 year instance described above, which had Apache2 instead of > nginx). I will have the mongo server on a separate machine, but have > not decided whether to use the DO offering of a managed mongo server. > It's still a work in progress, and other's experiences are of > interest. > > Thanks for reading. > Yanni Chiu > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 8:33 AM Esteban Maringolo <emaring...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Yeap, not much more to add than what Sven said. What's important to >> mention is that they are really stable. >> I've been running Pharo servers in DO droplets of all sizes, without >> issues (some running for months), I only had to upscale one droplet to >> more memory, and it was because of a leak I introduced with PGSQL >> connections, otherwise, they're pretty lightweight for today's >> standards and a normal workload. >> >> I have deployments with nginx and Pharo images as upstreams, and I >> have one with Docker swarm and Traefik doing the load balancing among >> different Pharo workers and acting as the HTTPS endpoint. I'm removing >> this option though and moving back to nginx only. >> >> What I never tried was to host a docker container running Pharo, in >> some Docker hosting. It might be the best option as a quick start, but >> after doing the math, it's always more expensive than a Droplet. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:21 AM Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Vince, >>> >>> That is certainly possible and works well. I would recommend an instance >>> with 1GB RAM, that leaves you some headroom. >>> >>> Deploying web applications is of course a broad subject, much of the >>> required knowledge is not Pharo specific, but needed anyway. >>> >>> The last chapter in the Pharo Enterprise book >>> (https://books.pharo.org/enterprise-pharo/) is a good starting point >>> (Deployment). But there are other and different approaches. >>> >>> A plain HTTP demo instance running on a DO instance can be found here: >>> http://zn.stfx.eu/welcome >>> >>> For production use you should front with NGINX or something similar to add >>> HTTPS. >>> >>> May people on this mailing list deploy Pharo server applications, we have >>> tens of them in day to day production doing real work. >>> >>> Good luck on your journey, you know where to ask questions. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sven >>> >>>> On 22 Jul 2021, at 07:56, vin...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyone here run a web app using plain ZnServer (or subclasses) on a cheap >>>> VPS (i.e., $10/month DO droplet or equivalent). What are your >>>> experiences?, suggestions. >>>> >>>> I am planning a web app with just plain ZnServer, SQLite3, ATS or >>>> equivalent. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Vince >>>>
