It's not a mold, but rather a fungus. It pits the surface of the cylinder so the recording is destroyed even if the mold could be removed. Black wax is actually a metallic soap compound, not just wax (although it contains a couple of wax compounds). I've never exposed a cylinder to gasoline or the like, but I imagine it would be incredibly destructive to the cylinder, particularly the delicate grooves. When I have picked up cylinders with 'moldy' spots, I have applied Mycotin brand anti-fungal in sparing amounts with a cotton swab to the affected areas. I have never seen the spots go away, but my hope is to kill the fungus and stop the spread. Cylinder boxes containing moldy cylinders are also contaminated and should not be re-used for good cylinders for obvious reasons. John M ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:24 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... Hi Gang...
Was talking with a friend who was at an avid Edison machine/cylinder record collector's home today. They got to talking about black wax cylinder mold and this fellow suggested that you could use gasoline or kerosene on light mold to remove it. Seems that if it were that easy and safe for cylinder record that I would have heard this by now. Guess I could try it on one that is headed for the trash anyway, but I thought I'd ask you folks what you thought? Fire away... -jeff :) _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From plavzic Mon Feb 23 06:30:13 2004 From: plavzic (Robert Plavzic) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hello I once tried the fossil fuel method on a mouldy cylinder, and the result was a really clean looking shiny cylinder. Only once though because though the cylinder looked great, the *zine had dissolved the wax compound, so the cylinder was ready for re-recording! I recon Alcohol & other cleaners would also with high likelyhood polish away the recording? I read somewhere that cylinders stored freely - away from the felt lining of the boxes are not so succeptible to mould eg. Concert cylinders that are held in boxes by a central core & do not touch the side of the box have a greater life expectency / mould-fungus avoidance. The fungus 'eats' away at the wax, and the resulting pitting cannot be reversed. Another cleaning method to be careful with is just putting the cylinder under warm/cold water - the sudden temperature difference usually leaves 2 half cylinders (from a colleague who tried this - only once as well) I have also been told that liquid black shoe polish will at least make the cylinder look OK, but I'm not going to experiment! regards Robert PS. Some new Zonophones? on www.zonophone.netfirms.com, if anyone could please hint at the model designation > >It's not a mold, but rather a fungus. It pits the surface of the cylinder >so the recording is destroyed even if the mold could be removed. Black wax >is actually a metallic soap compound, not just wax (although it contains a >couple of wax compounds). I've never exposed a cylinder to gasoline or the >like, but I imagine it would be incredibly destructive to the cylinder, >particularly the delicate grooves. When I have picked up cylinders with >'moldy' spots, I have applied Mycotin brand anti-fungal in sparing amounts >with a cotton swab to the affected areas. I have never seen the spots go >away, but my hope is to kill the fungus and stop the spread. Cylinder >boxes containing moldy cylinders are also contaminated and should not be >re-used for good cylinders for obvious reasons. John M > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jeff >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:24 AM >To: Antique Phonograph List >Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinder Mold Question... > >Hi Gang... > >Was talking with a friend who was at an avid Edison machine/cylinder record >collector's home today. They got to talking about black wax cylinder mold >and this fellow suggested that you could use gasoline or kerosene on light >mold to remove it. Seems that if it were that easy and safe for cylinder >record that I would have heard this by now. Guess I could try it on one >that is headed for the trash anyway, but I thought I'd ask you folks what >you thought? Fire away... > >-jeff >:) > > > >_______________________________________________ >Phono-l mailing list >[email protected] >http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.comGet more from >the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >_______________________________________________ >Phono-l mailing list >[email protected] >http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
