In a message dated 12/7/2004 8:56:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

> > COA's  mean nothing and over 80% of all autographs on
> > Ebay are fakes. Take it from  there..
> 
> I couldn't agree with you more. I would like to see someone put all the 
> 

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Here is ebay's official view of autographs on their website:

<<Unacceptable Authenticators on eBay
Many users may have heard about a federal investigation by the FBI and United 
States Attorneys' offices in San Diego and Chicago into forgeries of sports 
autographs and certificates of authenticity that may have been falsely issued 
in connection with sports autograph sales. As a result of that case, eBay will 
not permit any use of certificates of authenticity on its site that have been 
issued by "SCAA", "J. Dimaggio Co.", "Universal Inc.," "Universal 
Memorabilia," "Sports Management Group," "Stan's Sports," "Pro Sports," "Pro 
Sports 
Memorabilia," "Dave Niedema a.k.a. Dave Madiema," "Steve Ryan," "North Shore 
Sports," "Sport Card Kid Hunting Beachor," "Forensic Document Services-Robert 
Prouty," "R.R.'s Sports Cards & Collectibles," "All-Sports Cards & 
Memorabilia," 
"Sports Alley Memorabilia," "Slamdunk Sportscards Memoribilia,"Universal," 
"Donald 
Frangipani," "Sports Management Group," "Stans Sports Memorabilia," "W.W. 
Sportscards & Collectibles," "SCCA / Front Page Art Angela-John Marino," "J. 
Dimaggio Company," "Legends Sports Memorabilia," "Classic Memorabilia," or 
"Hollywood Dreams". Any listings that refer to examinations or certificates of 
authenticity from these companies will not be allowed. Further, in an unrelated 
matter, eBay has learned that hundreds of certificates of authenticity 
originally 
issued by autograph authenticator Donald Frangipani have been fraudulently 
copied or altered. Until further notice, eBay will not permit any use of 
certificates of authenticity on its site that have been issued by Donald 
Frangipani. 
Listings that refer to examinations or certificates of authenticity from Mr. 
Frangipani will not be allowed.
Finally, eBay has learned that forensic examiner Robert Prouty and a company 
known as Forensic Document Services caused a number of certificates to be 
issued based upon only limited, "cursory" reviews of autographs. Based upon 
information from the N.Y. Department of Consumer Affairs, federal law 
enforcement 
and Mr. Prouty, it appears that these limited reviews were not sufficient to 
provide meaningful assurances about the authenticity of the autograph. As a 
number of items issued with such certificates may be forgeries, eBay will not 
permit any such limited certificates of authenticity issued by Robert Prouty or 
Forensic Document Services to be used in any way on eBay. Any listings that 
refer 
to examinations or certificates of guarantee or authenticity from Mr. Prouty 
will not be allowed. >>

Allen
 (a few Victor push puzzles still left)

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