Sure its not a Crapophone with a Victor II ID Plate? :-) Just kidding..can you link a picture? It sounds interesting. John
bruce78rpm <[email protected]> wrote: I have a completely original Victor II Gramophone which does not possess the measurements that are outlined in "Look For the Dog". The description in LFTD for the original Victor II states, "Although in the later years the instruments appeared to be quite similar in design (to the Victor I), the original Victor II was about 1 1/2" deeper and wider the Victor I". These additional inches would make the first design of the Victor II to be about 13 1/2 Wide compared to the Victor I which was 12" wide. However my Victor II is 12" by 12" by 6/1/2" high which means that it is very similar in dimensions to the Victor I which was 12" by 12" by 5 7/8". Now this is possible of course if my machine was the so called later style as referred to in LFTD, but the description also states that in the later style the ribbed corner columns were deleted when a restyled cabinet patterned after that of the Victor 1 was introduced in April of 1909, and my Victor II still has the ribbed corner column s. I am guessing therefore that this must be a transitional styling, still possessing the classic ribbed corner columns of the original Victor II but trimmed down in size to just about the same as the Victor I. Does anyone else have one these "Transitional" style Victor II's in there possession? Do my assumptions sound logical? The serial number of this machine is 52788. Bruce _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/

