I was told the slip-in elbow was used on Victor II machines, but I don't
know this for sure.  I've done some research and my best guess is that I
have a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II, made in England.  Not sure
of the date.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Pathe Phonographs (Robert Plavzic)
   2. My new Zonophone (Robert Plavzic)
   3. Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 ([email protected])
   4. Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 (Steven Medved)
   5. Re: Wonderful Windups (Dan Kj-)
   6. Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II (Silverman, Adam M.)
   7. Re: Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II (Andrew Baron)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:28:54 +0000
From: "Robert Plavzic" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Phonographs
To: [email protected]
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Hello

Try www.romfi.com, there is the largest selection that I have seen
(could be 
larger though the database seems to be still increasing as people add
info). 
I do not remember the price overview to be too complete eithr, though
the 
potential is there.

What model did you wish to know about particularly?

regards

Rob


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>Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Phonographs
>Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:03:46 +0000
>
>Hi all!,
>       Does anyone know of a good reference for Pathe phonographs?  I'm
>looking for models, pictures and current values.
>
>Thanks,
>Pat
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:58:04 +0000
From: "Robert Plavzic" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Phono-L] My new Zonophone
To: [email protected]
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Hello

Was very happy to pick up an unusual model. Have a look at

http://www.zonophone.netfirms.com    (Machines)

its in the 1903 group Zonophone Tall Case & Side Start (Larger model 
France). The case is superb - excluding of course the usual worm holes.
on 2 
sides it has a very involved marquetry with walnut inlay.

Unfortunately the machine is at the moment only case - motor -
turntable. 
The front mount arm is very similar to the MS special arm.

Does anyone know the history of Zonophone France, as they seem to have
made 
machines specifically for the french market that were not mainstream 
Zonophone - though the transfer was?

thanks

Rob




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:14:40 EST
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219
To: [email protected]
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hi all
the smythes are great people to deal with and very honest
happy collecting


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:54:27 -0500
From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219
To: [email protected]
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The Smiths are one of the few people who make parts of outstanding
quality.

Steve

>I can vouch for the quality of the parts at www.wwindups.com. I got a 
>bracket for my Victor 9-16 and it was superb.
>
>Bruce
>




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:15:24 -0500
From: "Dan Kj-" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wonderful Windups
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
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Indeed!  Their $50 Orthophonic bracket (a bit more now, I think)  made
my 
$25 Credenza into a thing of beauty (well, a thing of utility - it was
as 
beautiful as it will ever get )


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219


> The Smiths are one of the few people who make parts of outstanding
> quality.
>
> Steve
>
>>I can vouch for the quality of the parts at www.wwindups.com. I got a 
>>bracket for my Victor 9-16 and it was superb.
>>
>>Bruce



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:11:25 -0500
From: "Silverman, Adam M." <[email protected]>
Subject: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II
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Hi there.  This is my first post to this site.  I have recently acquired
what I believe to be a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II gramophone
style phonograph (a real English Victor, not a crap-o-phone).  The rear
tone-arm bracket requires a "slip-in" style horn elbow, which I do not
have.  The rear bracket is identical to the one pictured here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6575393292&rd=1&sspag
ename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
 
I have a horn (probably not original) with a "bayonet" style attachment
for a standard Victor elbow.  What I need is the proper slip-in elbow
(and then I'll need to see about getting the correct horn).  The opening
in the tone arm/bracket for the horn elbow is about 1 3/4 inches.  I've
been told that the horn elbow from a Victor II would be the correct
size, but I don't know this for sure.
 
Does anyone know where I could purchase such a thing?  Any advice would
be appreciated.
 
Many thanks.
 
  


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:44:06 -0700
From: Andrew Baron <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

The horn elbow opening in the top of the rear-mount Victor II back  
bracket measures 1 1/2", and at this diameter is only about 3/32" deep.

  Then it steps down in diameter as it goes deeper in.

At the top of this receptacle, at the rear, there's a thumb screw and  
bracket for retaining the flared rim of the horn elbow.  This rim (at  
the bottom edge of the elbow) is about 3/16" thick.

Although I don't know where an elbow is available, I hope this will  
help you in your quest.

Andy Baron


On Nov 8, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Silverman, Adam M. wrote:

> Hi there.  This is my first post to this site.  I have recently  
> acquired
> what I believe to be a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II gramophone
> style phonograph (a real English Victor, not a crap-o-phone).  The
rear
> tone-arm bracket requires a "slip-in" style horn elbow, which I do not
> have.  The rear bracket is identical to the one pictured here:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> ViewItem&item=6575393292&rd=1&sspag
> ename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>
> I have a horn (probably not original) with a "bayonet" style
attachment
> for a standard Victor elbow.  What I need is the proper slip-in elbow
> (and then I'll need to see about getting the correct horn).  The  
> opening
> in the tone arm/bracket for the horn elbow is about 1 3/4 inches.
I've
> been told that the horn elbow from a Victor II would be the correct
> size, but I don't know this for sure.
>
> Does anyone know where I could purchase such a thing?  Any advice
would
> be appreciated.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
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