Wow, I'll consider this e-mail the reference touchstone for this subject - in fact, I'll consider it closed. Thanks for that insight, Dan, and for the research, Loran! Intellect AND heart - that's why I love this list.
R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kjeldgaard" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Racial Inferences (was Coin-op'd Edison . . .) > All of those 'Dutch' references were common, long ago. They also mostly > meant Germans of any sort, not just people from Holland (Pennsylvania Dutch > = Germans, vaudeville's Dutch comedians = Germans) > "Dutch Courage" is especially common; I'm surprised you haven't heard that > one. (Try Jack London's short story "Dutch Courage" , for the longest > definition) . I don't like to see our colorful language throttled by > Political Correctness > > > > ps - 100+ years ago, Germany was well known for producing CHEAP manufactured > goods - just look at all the "British" records stamped there, and the many > cheap gramophones, too. Edison himself considered the Germans to be > "cheese-parers" - and he was half 'Dutch' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DON MAYER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:43 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Racial Inferences (was Coin-op'd Edison . . .) > > > Eric, > > I am sorry, but I can not let your "Dutch" references go without > responding. > > I don't think that your "Dutch = inferior" comments were > pertainent or in good taste. I have not heard the > examples you quote in my little corner of the English-speaking > world, so it does give one hope that the phrases you quote are > more local than you realize. > > In any event, I do hope that we can have meaningful discourse > without racial characterizations such as you provided in your > posting. They do sound a little like fingernails on a blackboard to > some of us. > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l >
