In a message dated 3/3/2004 8:24:13 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I agree, certainly a rare machine. I love rare machines.
BUT, it is such a basic, almost ugly case. I wonder what it will really bring. There are much less rare machines in the Victor line that are so beautiful. And I agree also... I really don't care how rare a VV XIII is. There seems to be nothing interesting about it. I certainly wouldn't pay a premium for it. Just my opinion. ---Art Heller From appywander Thu Mar 4 05:02:04 2004 From: appywander (John Maeder) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XIII on eBay Message-ID: <[email protected]> It is what it is regardless of our contemporary opinions of its style or lack of it. I recall a XIII being on eBay a couple of years ago and it went for around $20K as I recall. If you were driven to have a collection that includes all or nearly all the Victrola variants and you didn't have a XIII -- and money was no object -- what would you pay for it? John MGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From Srsells1 Thu Mar 4 15:38:20 2004 From: Srsells1 ([email protected]) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Czech Phono and Record book available to US buyers Message-ID: <[email protected]> This is a onetime post about the book which was produced in connection with the phonograph exhibit in Prague last year. It's directed at US members of Phono-L. The book is available in the UK and Germany but, I wanted to ease the postage and foreign exchange situation so it would get in collectors hands. After reading - it's sorta long - please contact me OFF list. Thanks! Those who received their copies of ?In The Groove? this week may have seen my review of a wonderful new book from Prague, Czech Republic on Phonographs and Records, titled ?When The Comet Hits Us?. After seeing my original review copy I decided that this was something other US collectors would want. There were copies in Europe for sale but the shipping costs to the US were high. So, I decided to purchase a small quantity in bulk and offer them to collectors in the US. It was the catalog for a wonderful exhibit which ended on January 31st. But, it?s not really a catalog as much as a 98 page soft cover history of the sound recording and the industry in what used to be Czechoslovakia. The graphics are great. (I?ll copy part of my review below.). Anyway, I have a limited number to sell. To my knowledge, there are no others for sale in US and the author has no more either. In addition I was able to acquire a VERY limited supply of other paper items related to the exhibit. These include BEAUTIFUL bookmarks, glossy, heavy-duty coasters and a set of postcards using illustrations from the book. I will offer these ?extras? with no shipping charge if packed with the book. Here is excerpt from review: The 98-page softbound book, When The Comet Hits Us, is not only loaded with gorgeous record labels, needle tins and some very rare talking machines (the ? smiling Buddha? and potted plant Floraphon need to be seen to be believed) but the extensive text ? all in English ? gives a fascinating history of the recording industry in the ever changing political system in what was once Czechoslovakia. There were only two Czech-based companies but other labels including Victor and Columbia are discussed as well. The items shown are from private collections and editor Gabriel Goessel has done a magnificent job in producing this book. I?m able to offer the book at a price of $23.00 plus $2.75 Media Mail. I posted three scans for you to see how gorgeous this is: http://tinyurl.com/3ha6u http://tinyurl.com/ywuob http://tinyurl.com/3anyt Next are the Coasters: I have 6 sets of 6 different coasters and they are $12.00 for the set of 6. Here is scan: http://tinyurl.com/yt5kb I have another small supply of FIVE coasters consisting of the ones listed above minus the coaster is upper left (Telra). These would be $8.00 for the set of five.. Next is a set of 10 Colorful Bookmarks. They are $10.00 for the set. Here are scans of the first six: http://tinyurl.com/36uut And the remaining four: http://tinyurl.com/yrbed Lastly are the postcards. A set of 8 different postcards ? I only have 4 sets) are $10.00 for the set. Scan at: http://tinyurl.com/2ury6 No shipping charge on the paper items if included with book. Otherwise, shipping by First Class is $1.25 Above prices are if paid by check or MO. I will accept Paypal for an additional 5% (75 cent minimum). I?m glad I could get these to offer to US buyers. I?m really impressed by the information and the graphics of labels, machines and associated artwork is fabulous. They are being offered on a first come, first serve basis. I cannot get any more. If interested, please contact me DIRECT at the FOLLOWING email address: [email protected] Steve Ramm From Gpaul2000 Thu Mar 4 16:58:29 2004 From: Gpaul2000 ([email protected]) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XIII/What Drives Us Message-ID: <[email protected]> In a message dated 3/4/2004 6:02:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > If you were driven to have a collection that includes... That's the operative sentence, isn't it? What drives each of us? Some of us are driven primarily by rarity. If a certain machine can be found in many collections, some of us aren't interested in obtaining an example. It's simply wanting what no one else (or few others) have. Then there's the Victrola "XIII" -- which has absolutely NOTHING to recommend it except its rarity. Don't get me wrong - I love rare machines too, but I purchase phonographs simply because I like them. Some collectors don't. That continues to surprise me, but it's a fact that there are several types of collectors among us! Within the past month, a longtime collector described my collection as "...about a dozen killer machines with 60 or so more as filler." He really wasn't slamming me, and I don't take offense. That's his vision: he's a worshipper of rarity. Period. I happen to like certain machines despite their relative commonness (e.g., Type "A," "B," and "C" Graphophones, drip-pan "Gems," the Amberola "V," the Victor "MS," etc.). On the other hand, I have no interest in some machines that others lust after (e.g., Victor "VI" or Edison "Opera.") Of course, if one popped up at a yard sale, I'd buy it. I'd also sell it, as I have done in the past. I happen to own a machine that I've never seen anywhere else. I'll bet I couldn't get $400 for it, either, because it's an off-brand ("Autophone") from 1919 - an inexpensive table model in a chestnut cabinet. That's a rare machine, but who wants it? When you get into the 1918-1920 period, there are many rare machines (off-brands) that no one particularly wants. The Victrola "XIII" has the advantage of the Victor imprimatur, but personally, I wouldn't give it house space. As my wife so perceptively observed, "Rarity is not rare. Neither are good deals." In my next life, I'm going to marry a woman who loves antique phonographs, rare or otherwise. George Paul From Srsells1 Thu Mar 4 21:47:20 2004 From: Srsells1 ([email protected]) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Error in Ad fo Delaware Phono Show in ITG Message-ID: <[email protected]> I just noticed that a "fly must have gotten in the ointment" this month and the full page ad for the Claymont Delaware Phono Record & Music Box show on page 12 has the WRONG DATE! The date listed is September 21st which is last year show! The Correct date is Sunday, April 18th. It also has the WRONG PRICE. It say General Admission is $8.00. The correct admission fee is FREE ADMISSION to buyers! I know that some people knew the right date, but I thought I'd alert folks to correct the date! I just spoke with Editor Phil Stewart and he informed me that the error was caught after the issue was mailed so there will be a separate single sheet mailed to all member/subscribers tomorrow. He was happy to have me spread the word. Steve Ramm From loran Thu Mar 4 22:33:09 2004 From: loran (Loran T. Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia-Europa Real Photo Message-ID: <[email protected]> Folks, Just won this vintage real photo of a Columbia-Europa in use: http://www.oldcrank.com/images/8866.jpg My Europa phonographs are featured on the intertique web site at http://www.intertique.com/1914Page2.htm . I'm always looking for catalogs and/or advertising featuring these machines - and of course, different examples of these phonos. If you have any info or something you want to part with, drop me a line! Regards, Loran
