at risk of sounding like a gouged or cracked 78 (look!  he got back  
on-topic!), one easy way to find help is to go here with credit card  
in hand:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa

as with anything else, there's always a point where it's time to cut  
one's losses and move on.  the amount of money time and grief each  
person is able/willing to spend varies, but at some point enough is  
enough, and they just go buy a mac.

and i know of not one person who has gone over to the Mac side, and  
then returned to windows.

-- peter

On Nov 22, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Rich wrote:

> The real sad news is that IE-7 and Vista offer no improvement on  
> the present situation.
>
> Most people who end up with an infected computer have absolutely no  
> idea how to install an
> alternative to either internet explorer or either outlook let alone  
> how to keep all of the other
> deadly windows "features" from running quietly in the background.   
> Nor do they have any idea
> how to find someone who can help them.
>
> Rich
>
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:11:34 -0800, Peter Fraser wrote:
>
>> sure there were a few Mac virii back in the Jurassic era, but I
>> haven't used Hypercard for at least a decade, and thus feel safe.  It
>> took Gates and crew to truly inspire the scriptkiddies to their
>> current heights of achievement!  is the number of windoze virii in
>> the tens of thousands, or the hundreds of thousands now?
>
>> your basic advice is extremely sound - if you don't feel like
>> spending $600 on a new Mac (firewall built into the OS, standard,
>> btw), at least chuck anything with the name "Outlook" in its title,
>> for safety as well as ease of use.
>
>> -- peter
>
>
>
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