XII's have a very odd motor, and a one of a kind crank.  I agree it is 
awfully short.  I am pretty sure the motor and crank were only used in this 
machine.

I would guess that the shaft was only used on the motor as well, so it may 
be a hard part to find if you want an original piece.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Rubin" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victrola XII


> Well, Vince, it's not really a matter of aesthetics.  This is a really,
> really short crank, and the danger is of scratching up the cabinet, maybe
> even the barrel.
>
>
>>From: "Vince C." <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
>>To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victrola XII
>>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:33:50 -0500
>>
>>Does that crank go in too far to make it usable or unsightly as-is?  If 
>>not
>>why not just leave it as is.
>>
>>I had a table top VV-X that had the same problem.  When I screwed the 
>>crank
>>on it simply moved the crank in 1/4", not enough to even make a difference
>>in the appearance.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Richard Rubin" <[email protected]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:24 PM
>>Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XII
>>
>>
>> > O.K., I've checked around on this one and now I need some advice.  I
>>have
>> > a
>> > Victrola XII which I've been restoring for some time now, and it's
>>coming
>> > along well.  The motor is in fine shape, with one exception:  The
>>winding
>> > shaft.  At some point its its history, the tip broke off.  I'm not sure
>> > just
>> > how much, but some of it's gone.  The good news is that there's still
>> > enough
>> > threading on it to make it usable; the bad news is that the tip, which
>> > extends beyond the threaded part (I don't know exactly how much beyond
>>--
>> > anyone out there know?) is supposed to stop the winding key from
>>screwing
>> > on
>> > too far.  So, I have a few options:  1.  I could get a winding shaft 
>> > off
>> > another XII motor.  This is my first choice, and if someone has a parts
>> > XII
>> > motor, I'd really like to hear from you.  2.  I could try to modify a
>> > winding shaft from another motor, though I'm not sure if any others are
>> > even
>> > suitable to that purpose.  3.  I could have someone make a me a new 
>> > one,
>> > using my old one and the specs as a guide; again, if anyone out there
>> > knows
>> > the exact specs, I'd really like to hear from you.  4.  I could leave
>>the
>> > shaft alone and insert something into the winding key -- a ball 
>> > bearing,
>> > for
>> > instance -- to keep it from screwing on too far.
>> >
>> > So, as I said, if someone has a shaft or knows where I can get one,
>>please
>> > let me know.  Likewise, if you have the exact specs for the shaft,
>>again,
>> > I'd appreciate hearing from you.  But I guess I'd also like to hear
>>which
>> > course you all think I should pursue if option #1 doesn't work out.  Is
>>it
>> > better to modify another one, to try and make a new one, or to slightly
>> > (and
>> > invisibly) modify the crank?  Thanks in advance for your opinions.
>> >
>> >
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