Greetings, everyone.  While I've been collecting for quite a while, now, I've 
always just stuck to disc machines, but this weekend I stumbled upon an Edison 
Standard being offered for for next to nothing, so I picked it up.  Trouble is, 
I know next to nothing about it, and I'm just trying to figure out what it is.  
It has the banner decal and the "C" reproducer, and it doesn't seem to have 
been converted to a 2/4 machine, though frankly I don't think I'd be able to 
tell if it had been.  The serial number is S279 3 56, and the last patent date 
on the plaque is November 17, 1903.  There is no indication of any model number 
(or letter) on the plaque.  It has the original crane (1904 patent date on 
that) which is black and which doesn't actually attach to the case but rather 
sits underneath it, and comes up and out from behind the case.  The horn is 25" 
long (14" diameter) with a brass bell, but the body of the horn is covered by 
something (I've seen it described as "silk," but it feels more like a thin 
leatherette), which is actually in very good shape, and which is now kind of a 
rust brown in color.  The rubber neck is also there and in excellent condition 
(it could be a replacement, not sure; it's very thick).  I know it's not a 
Standard A, since it has a decal and the lid is rounded, not square.  The case 
(minus the lid) measures 12.5" wide x 6" high x 8.5" deep.  So, I guess I'm 
wondering:  What exactly do I have here?  Can anyone tell me anything about the 
horn?  Is it worth reconditioning the reproducer, or should I just buy a new 
one?  What is involved in converting this to a 2/4 machine?  Would such a 
conversion be inauthentic?  I should add that it came with 8 2-minute cylinders 
in cases, so I suspect it is just a 2-minute machine as it is.
 
By the way, I haven't seen anyone post any assessments of the Union show this 
year.  What did you all think?
 
--RR
From [email protected]  Sun Jun 25 22:05:33 2006
From: [email protected] (Richard Rubin)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:42 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Standard, part 2
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Well, the mystery deepens.  I looked in the newest Reiss book (4th ed. that 
is), page 58, and there I see that my machine does, in fact, have the 2/4 
minute gearing (left column, third picture from the top).  Stranger still, 
though, I can't for the life of me figure out where the speed control is on 
this phonograph.  It's not in the front, to the left of the shutoff switch -- 
there's not even a hole for it there.  Now I truly have no idea what I have.  
(Did I mention that, prior to this purchase, I didn't "do" cylinders?)  I'll be 
happy to send pictures to anyone who asks if it'll help.  And thanks in advance 
for whatever information/theories you'd care to impart/share. 
From [email protected]  Tue Jun 27 17:54:01 2006
From: [email protected] (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:42 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] ebayer shellacdisc
Message-ID: <002d01c69a4d$5c8a61d0$2f01a...@ronlherault>

Anyone know who shellacdisc is on ebay?  I've bid against him on an item and
then it occurred to me that he might be a member of the list and I avoid
bidding against a list member as a general rule.

Ron L


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