They are not like a big store in one very important way: liability. In the antiquephonograph area it is easy for us to see fraud, in the eyes of eBay as long as their incomeis not affected they do not care. Your idea is wonderful, there is only one problem, youcare and eBay doesn't, that is why they do not have such a program.SteveRegarding eBay scams. Ebay is like a big store. If they don't want to invest time and money for their customers safety why should you or I spend our time to police their site? To protect a stranger from a scam? Ebay has spent billions buying this are that, raising rates to sellers and we wonder how to help them when they don't seem to be very interested!!!! If more and more scam artist used this relatively un-policed site prices should drop. Remember what eBay's cheer is, Caveat Emptor. I think a $$ reward for reporting scams that can be substantiated would do the trick. Just for fun,oldcranky From [email protected] Tue Jul 11 17:03:33 2006 From: [email protected] (Stephen Madara) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:44 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 3, Issue 164 In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
--- [email protected] wrote: > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Very Fishy !!!! Edison Suitcase home scam > (Walt Sommers) > 2. Re: Very Fishy !!!! Edison Suitcase home scam > ([email protected]) > 3. old article on the phonograph (Ron L'Herault) > 4. EbaY Fraud (Mike Stitt) > 5. Re: EbaY Fraud (Robert Wright) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:34:24 -0400 > From: "Walt Sommers" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Very Fishy !!!! Edison > Suitcase home scam > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <014601c6a457$da0af8e0$0200a...@daddell> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The seller ironage is legit. They have an > established reputation selling > phonographs. > > It looks like the seller whose ID is now > "wiganathleticno.1" has hijacked > the account of the user previously named "6928carl". > The ID was changed on > July 2. It looks like all of the auctions he > presently has running were also > previously listed by other sellers. I really had > eyes for the McIntosh > MC7150 Amplifier he has listed, but that one too is > a fake and was listed > previously by another seller, and so on and so on. > Note also that all the > auctions show as being in Michigan, but the account > shows it is [now] > registered in the U.K. > I also reported the Edison Home to Ebay. It is important to provide Ebay with as much information as possible. I reported 3 fake Ebay auctions just this week. The most recent was an Amberola 75 in oak with a buy it now of $600.00. I knew that I had seen the pictures before and with a little research found them on Mechantiques website which is owned by Martin Roegnik. I contacted Marty and he confirmed that they had indeed stolen his pictures and that he still owned the machine and does not sell on Ebay. Ebay removed the listing within 30 minutes of my reporting it. Safe Hunting, Stephen Madara > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

