and again .........................

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On 7/12/06, Walt Sommers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Well, I must say thanks to Loran's efforts in maintaining this forum and
> the
> generally high caliber of sincere collectors who subscribe and participate
> in this Phono-List. The books and reference materials we have access to
> out
> there are indeed education to help prevent scam artist tactics, but the
> real-time inputs and often immediate warnings (like this thread started)
> from people on this list have been a wonderful public service and I don't
> even have to pay any taxes for it.
>
> New collectors, from what I have observed, are not only getting scammed as
> they try to get involved, but because they don't have the luxury of
> talking
> to knowledgeable people (or at least they aren't initially aware of
> resources like this list) they often pay too much for machines that have
> all
> sorts of inelegant repairs, mixes and matches of parts, reproduction
> parts,
> and so on.
>
> Caveat emptor will always be the final consideration for all rational
> creatures like us, and I, for one, am glad to have the resources and
> relationships as a result of this forum to help guide me. At lease here,
> and
> I can say this from personal experience, we can and do look out for each
> other's backs...
>
> Walt
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:42 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this that fishy Home again?
>
> For me at least, the time has come where I'll probably not be bidding on
> any
> machines on Ebay, especially the high end ones. Due to these scam artists'
> ability to hijack a legitimate seller's Ebay name and other data, you
> can't
> even say, "Oh, I know this guy, he's ok." I feel bad for all the
> prospective
> collectors starting up out there. We were all in that boat once, many of
> us
> long before all the reference books that abound out there.
> I came close to being scammed last year when I was unsuccessful on bidding
> on a Kreusi replica. Several days later, I received an email from the
> "purported" seller saying that the high bidder had reneiged, and I could
> have it for my bid. He even sent me a "legitimate" looking website of the
> shipper. He wanted me to wire the money Western Union to Greece!!!. I
> called
> the shipping company, and they said the didn't do business the way this
> individual claimed and that it was probably a scam. (I was suspicious when
> he told me NOT to contact the shipping company. Sometimes it's good to be
> contrary!)
> If anyone is interested, I saved all those emails from the seller (and
> "shipping company")and I will send them to you off list. (It's good for a
> chuckle, because he was really desperate, he even changed the wire address
> to a UK office later on!) I also went to the FedGov page and reported the
> attempted transaction, needless to say, I haven't heard a peep from them.
>
> Be ever vigilant!
> Bill
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