Yep, seen them.......this isn't a Douglas machine............

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From: "Daniel Melvin" <[email protected]> 

> I think you are fortetting about the Douglas cabinet victors. They are 
> indeed victors put together away from Victor. I'm not sure it is fair to say 
> victor didn't do this. They most definately did with Douglas. I don't think 
> it can be said they any less of a victor machine. And, they go for huge 
> money when the very rare machines become available. I think the machine in 
> question may have been made at the same time that the douglas cabinets were 
> being produced. I know that vic V and vic VI douglas machines existed. They 
> are in Fabrizio's books if anyone is interested. 
> 
> Dan 
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> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:17 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is the Strange Victor Upright on Ebay# 
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> > Well, that depends, this phongraph had no ID plate, and it shouldn't, as 
> > it wasn't produced by the Victor factory. As far as Victor selling motors 
> > to unauthorised factories.......I'm not aware of such transactions. I 
> > would have thought Baumbach would have included at least one of these in 
> > his book(s) including later pressings. One would think after 70 + years, 
> > one of these would appear much earlier...... 
> > 
> > Bill 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "Dan Kj-" 
> > 
> >> There's a very big difference between a 'frankenphone' and a custom made 
> >> case; Victor routinely sold mechanisms to furniture makers, and products 
> >> such as this one are desirable. Maybe not $1000++ desirable, but a lot 
> >> more 
> >> interesting than yet another standard Victrola off the assembly line :) 
> >> 
> >> 
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> >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:04 PM 
> >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is the Strange Victor Upright on Ebay # 
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> >> >I too was watching this ummmm........"Frankenphone" . Needless to say, 
> >> >there wasn't any crazy bidding on this item(apparently, he doesn't know 
> >> >enough ppl to shill bid it up!) Nice carving, though, but it still is 
> >> >what 
> >> >it is.......a non Victor made machine. 
> >> > 
> >> > Bill 
> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> estott wrote: 
> >> >> Looks to me like what the seller says- a custom made case from a 
> >> >> cabinet 
> >> >> shop. 
> >> 
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From [email protected]  Sat Jan 14 22:09:44 2006
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:10 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] another example....
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This must be the Holy Grail of cylinders...............
One can only guess wht heights this will attain.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6595590965&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
From [email protected]  Sat Jan 14 22:38:06 2006
From: [email protected] (Dan Kjeldgaard)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:10 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] victor machine
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I have 2 which weren't identified, each found near Norfolk VA about 25 and 
30 years ago.  Probably brought back by sailors, was my guess.
What made the first one special was its accompanying collection of 7 and 10 
inch records, almost all of Gilbert & Sullivan selections!  The second 
wasn't no nice, having been stored in a barn .... the odor lingered for 
quite a long time


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Glastris" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] victor machine


> Ah, but Gramophone Co. and G & T machines were identified as Gramophones
> with their own model identifications, just not as Victors.  Most early 
> cases
> were English made, just the metal parts imported.  Once the factory at 
> Hayes
> was large enough they stopped importing the parts.
>
> 

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