I too am a former member of the "other list." The "hoops" were extensive. I  
believe the moderator wanted a phone number that could be confirmed by looking 
 in a phone book. I am not sure why. I told the moderator that I worked in a  
maximum security prison, with gang-bangers, hit men, sex offenders, drug  
dealers, carjackers etc., and that I, like most people in my line of work,  
have 
an unlisted phone number.
 
I was accepted, finally, as a member on the other list. However, I  once made 
the horrible mistake of teasing one of the List's prima donna posters,  a 
self-appointed authority on just about everything to do with phonographs, new  
or 
old. What I said was really pretty mild, or so I thought.
 
I was wrong. This Poo Bah's sycophants descended on me, with the vengeance  
of harpies. I finally e-mailed the great Poo Bah to apologize. It turned out  
that he had taken what I said in stride. He, unlike his legion of vitriolic  
flunkies, had taken my gentle tweak just fine. 
 
At the time, I was a member of both "lists." I found myself saying less and  
less on the other list. I just didn't have anything to say to those folks. 
When  my wife and I consolidated our ISP accounts, I never bothered to inform 
the 
 guardians of the other list. I just sent Loran an e-mail, and he  switched 
things over to my new e-mail address on this list.
 
There is not as much chatter on Phono-L as on the other list, but  I think 
just as much gets said. The tone on phono-L is much more collegial,  and the 
members more helpful. I have managed to survive without access to the  vast 
store 
of knowledge displayed by certain members of the other list.
 
Not everyone over there was unpleasant, but a number of people were, and  
they did not hesitate to chime in, and flame anyone who questioned what they  
said, or disagreed with their pronouncements. I don't miss them at all.
 
Randy Minor

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