Randy,

Check eBay auction 6603694838.

Your VV 1-2 is a very sought after machine. I think the 1-2 is a knee-jerk
reaction to the already poor decision of Victor to produce the 1-1. How on
earth they thought they could reinvent the Victrola 4 and be profitable in
an age when Orthophonics, Ultraphonics, and radio had swept over the market
I don't know. The data book suggests that most of the 1-1s (faux mahogany)
were sent overseas, not initially as an export, but to get rid of them. I
must suppose that the idea of painting the boxes and slapping some decals on
them in the character of Little Wonder (read Merle's work on this) was done
with a "toss the ball and see if anybody catches it because time is up" hope
that it might be received well as a toy. But it was not, by design, supposed
to be a toy and it certainly seems that the lack of vision just made a bad
idea worse. But that is how some of us get novel rarities I suppose.

Although I would never base a fair market value on eBay alone, the one in
eBay auction # 6603694838 that sold for $1136.11 is real. I believe that the
bidders are legit (i.e. not someone's "imaginary friends" or shill bidders)
A friend of mine had one in much better condition than this and it sold for
$725.00 about 2 years ago. I was shocked because he had offered it to me for
$300 and I just sort of said...nahhhh thanks I already have one. I have
actually observed a few (probably about 4 now in 2 or 3 years) on eBay that
have sold for over $700.

Although condition does certainly affect the price, you might be pleasantly
surprised even if the decals and the old enamel paint have some wear and
flaking.

I think that Merle has already input to the group about it as well. She did
a very nice article about them for MAPS, "In the Groove" a little while
back. I have one of the earliest versions and have observed some differences
about it compared to the later models. For example, the aluminum tag on the
motor board under the turntable in mine does NOT say "VV 1-2" like most
machines, but it reads, "Aladdin". The license paper indicates "Victrola
1-2", however. One of these days (probably through this email) I will let
Merle know about it because she seems to be the genuine guru.

Before my buddy's machine sold for $700 I would have figured a very strong
asking price for a very clean model would be about $350 to $375. I still
think I would like to hold to that value, but the fact that I have seen
several of them exceed $700 makes me just sort of sit back and be quiet.

But check out the one that I showed the auction number for (6603694838) and
see what you think. It's almost unbelievable.

Walt

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] toy talking machine

Hello to all:
 
I will soon be selling a little toy, wind-up disc machine that my  wife 
bought almost 30 years ago. It is a cute thing, that is painted an
off-white 
color, and has colorful scenes of children playing on it. 
 
I have never paid much attention to it. However, we are trying to downsize  
our collection of "stuff," and my wife decided this machine could go.  I
lifted 
the platter off of the machine, and saw an I. D. tag with the following  
letters and numbers,  V V 1-2  5548. Is this thing an old Victor  toy
machine? I 
am an Edison guy, and I know only a little about  Victors. If Victor made
toy 
machines, I know nothing about them.
 
Thanks in advance for any information you folks might provide.
 
Randy Minor
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