None of the speed controls on any of my wind-ups could even approach 45rpm without making severe internal adjustments to the governor (to the point of not being able to get back up to 78rpm unless re-adjusted), and even if they could've, I can't imagine them being able to maintain it with a headless nail in a half-pound soundbox digging into vinyl, though I could be wrong. It just seems that the inertia that only comes into play above a certain threshold would be unavailable at 45rpm, especially once you add in the variable of stylus drag. Maybe I just never had one with the kind of spring strength you guys are talking about, but I know without a doubt my machines could not have pulled this off. But thanks for the opinions nonetheless.
So it's an absolute certainty no one tried to come out with a machine mod for 45rpm, right? r. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L" <[email protected]> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] uh, wow... >I have not tried it but I think the speed control is capable of making the > turntable go very slowly. It controls speed and not spring power, so > unless > the spring is so weak that it depends on a flywheel effect from the > turntable, it could very well play a 45 or a 33.3. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Robert Wright > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 6:57 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] uh, wow... > > I played 45's on victrolas as a kid, too, but this phonograph is running > at > exactly 45rpm (a quick comparison to a modern cd issue of "Love Me Tender" > will show this). That's the part I was bewildered by. Was there ever any > kind of mod available (as horrible an idea as it would've been) that made > wind-up phonographs play at 45rpm? Man I hope not, but I could certainly > see some company 'inventing' a conversion kit with claims of identical > fidelity to electric etc., etc., and taking the money and running. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "estott" <[email protected]> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] uh, wow... > > >> Playing a 45 on a victorola isn't that hard, it helps that they often >> presed them in a very hard plastic. The greatest chance for the needle to >> rip out the groove is at the beginning- if you can get past that point >> the > >> needle seems to ride pretty well, I recall that I had to do a lot of >> experimenting with needle grades. Now, if you're all agast, I was doing >> this back in grade school. As a kid I even played 33's with a >> counterweight systen on the soundbox. >> >> Eric Stott >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Wright" <[email protected]> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:54 AM >> Subject: [Phono-L] uh, wow... >> >> >>> Can someone tell me how this can be possible? >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twgw-MReQaI >>> >>> Judging by the sound changing as the camcorder gets closer to and >>> farther > >>> from the horn, and the amateurish vibe of the clip, it doesn't seem to >>> be > >>> any kind of hoax. (Also notice the shredding of the poor record when he >>> gets close enough to see it.) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> Phono-L Archive >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ >> >> Support Phono-L >> http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > > Support Phono-L > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > > Support Phono-L > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank >
