Hi Al,
 
I am delighted to see your findings and mine agree.  Do you know when the 
Automatic Recorder came out?  I have never seen an Auto Recorder with a serial 
number below 100,000.  I rebuilt a Standard Speaker and was able to record and 
listen with it, I noted that when you turn the arm for tracking purposed the 
volume increases, but the cutting stylus starts to touch the record.
 
I may have found someone who can make glass diaphragms, if so I will be happy 
to let you and this list know.  By crosshead do you mean the eyelet that is 
glued to the diaphragm?
 
Best regards,
 
Steve



> I just revisited the eBay listing and have noticed the low serial number and 
> > lack of lettering on the body parts. This is an earlier Standard Speaker > 
> that has been modified. I see also that the lister has been alerted and 
> edited > the listing. So, it is rare but incomplete. I don't know where a 
> collector > would find the correct dual stylus bar, glass diaphragm, and 
> crosshead to > complete the unit. Any suggestions are welcome since one of my 
> Standard > Speakers is missing the same parts?> > Best Wishes to All,> > Al> 
> Who needs a magnifier to see many eBay photos...> > 
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From [email protected]  Tue Dec 26 19:03:37 2006
From: [email protected] (Walt)
Date: Tue Dec 26 19:03:36 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] Yahoo's Electrola group
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <011101c72963$9ada3000$0200a...@daddell>

Bakelite (capitalized) is technically a brand name of a specific type of
early thermo-plastic. It's certainly not in the later styrene family of
plastics or anything you typically think of when you are looking at an
intricate injection molded case, but it is an early plastic compound of
sorts.

I guess the question would best be answered by starting with a definition of
"antique phonograph" (emphasis on the word "antique").

Making a list of do's and don'ts about what can or can't be discussed
probably won't work well only because some people are inclined to simply and
innocently shoot from the hip with a question, not realizing that it is
entirely off-topic. But from the few times I recall such questions being ask
here, the threads die an almost instantaneous death. Beyond that, there
seems to be an adequate contingent of high caliber members who can
responsibly direct such wanderers to appropriate forums elsewhere.

I think I like the idea of going with the "NO PLASTIC CASES" equipment as a
loose rule. Still though, many phonograph-radio combo units had wood
cabinets well into at least the 40's. Units made by Zenith and Admiral may
have had Bakelite cases, but at the same time companies like Silvertone were
producing comparable units installed in wooden cabinets. I don't believe
that these types of items (all of which I collect and work on extensively)
belong in this forum. Diodes, Triodes, Pentodes, and any other devices that
are used to alter electron movement as a means of reproducing sound, are
better discussed in other places (no offense to Mr. Sarnoff and company).

So.....someone please define "antique phonograph."

Walt

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Peter Fraser
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yahoo's Electrola group

does bakelite count as plastic?

On Dec 26, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Loran Hughes wrote:

> I like it. Any arguments against this rule of thumb?
>
> Loran
>
> On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Rich wrote:
>
>> That works also.  Or "NO PLASTIC CASE" equipment.  Some of the 45  
>> rpm dates from the late 30s.
>
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