To pack an Edison spring drive phono you have to remove the mechanism from the 
case and pack them 
separately.  Now to pack the mechanism you should do at least the following: 
Bread tie the governor 
weights on both sides.  Wrap a piece of closed cell polyethylene foam around 
the governor and tie 
down.  Find a box that the motor will fit into and the bedplate will set on top 
of.  Trim height so spring 
barrel is almost on bottom.  Place piece of fibre carpet pad in bottom to set 
spring on.  Buy a can of 
urethane foam.  Sprinkle inside of box with a light mist of tap water.  Fill 
box about 1/3 full of foam, 
maybe a little less.  Let it set for about 15 min.  drape 2 layers of plastic 
wrap over foam in box and 
lapped over all sides.  Set works into foam box.  let cure for at least 24 
hours at room temperature.  
After cure make sure that reproducer is NOt in carriage.  Wrap around box in 
both directions with 
shrink wrap, this will hold it all together.  Make a box or collar to fit over 
and cover topworks.  Shrink 
wrap top down.  If you think that the packing might rub on the finish and mark 
it then use sandwich 
wrap to protect (buy at SAMs).  You now have a nice rectangular block that will 
go into the larger box.  
Use corner cardboards to suspend the works box inside the outer box.  These are 
the "W" shaped 
pieces of cardboard.  The case is straightforward.  put sandwich wrap paper 
between the lid and base.  
Wrap with shrink wrap and pack in a big box.  you can use peanuts if you 
compress them tightly.  
Secure these packages initially with the standard sticky tape.  Then go over 
all of the sticky tape with 
water activated fiberglass reinforced heavy paper tape.  This will pass the 6 
foot drop test.  I pack them 
like this and then registered mail them.  They show up without a scratch.  
there is about $10 to $12 
dollars of packing materials in this.  Every town in the country has a box 
company either in town or 
the next town.  This is where you get the corner supports and boxes.  The 
corner supports go on all 
sides in the corners, that is twelve to the box and that suspends the mech 
inside the outer box.  make 
sure that the corner supports still have some spring in them to absorb shocks.

This takes longer to tell than to do.



On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:55:50 -0600, Robert Wright wrote:

>Then the one pervading rule is:  if it's gonna get shipped, it's gonna get 
>damaged.

>I guess I'll continue to consider myself very lucky that I only have two 
>negative experiences out of ... let's see...  going on about 17 years of 
>mail-order and shipping things in general now.  And it only happened 2 years 
>ago, spawning my policy of instructing the seller on packing.  It was one of 
>my Dual 1019 turntables, and luck was against it.  The seller didn't know to 
>remove the 7 pound platter, which you MUST do with the pressboad/plywood 
>plinth turntables before shipping, in addition to tightening the transport 
>screws that bind the baseplate to the plinth.  Well, the transport screw 
>washers broke free of the plinth and demolished it.  I didn't need the 
>plinth, it wasn't a 'nice' one to begin with and I had the one I wanted to 
>use already, but there were metal parts bent up inside that made the 
>automatic changer useless and the speed/pitch control useless.  And 
>"FRAGILE" was nowhere on the package.

>The other negative experience was the 20" Pathe I've mentioned.

>Rich, you said, "I have seen the mechanism of Edison homes blasted through 
>the side of an inner cardboard box and dents on the inside of the outer box, 
>and it was very well packed."  If that's the case, then what else could've 
>been done?

>I still think Rich had the best idea for super-rare and super-valuable --  
>get it in writing that they'll ship it Registered Mail FIRST, and then raise 
>holy hell with a lawyer in tow if anything bad happens.


>Best,
>Robert




>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Andrew Baron" <[email protected]>
>To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:02 PM
>Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping Herzog & NCR P.S.


>> Hello all ~
>>
>> It occurred to me that it's probably relevant to mention that NONE of  the 
>> items I mentioned in my last posting about shipping damage were  procured 
>> from eBay sellers or any other on-line auctions.  I  say  this to separate 
>> the shipping issue from the eBay issues that get  discussed here from time 
>> to time.
>>
>> The Herzog cabinet was purchased from an established and reputable 
>> dealer, the lamp was a family heirloom being shipped to me from a  close 
>> family member in a distant state and the antique cash register  was from 
>> an antique store in Florida that I have done repairs and  trades with 
>> since I was a young teen.
>>
>> Andy Baron
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