Genola childs parts machine-tin cabinet, turntable, &
motor.  The green tin cabiinet has neat graphics on
both sides and a Genola "Made in USA" label on the
front.  $55 plus shipping

11" paper Nippers - I have three extra.  Two are
original (with minor typical repairs) and one has been
repainted.  $250ea for originals and $150 for the
repainted one plus shipping.

I also have several machines for sale: Edison B Gem
with black M/G horn, $750. Zonophone Home with lots of
repro parts, $950. Vic 1 with repro horn & elbow,
$900.

If you see something interesting, please contact me
off list.  I am happy to send photos and deliver
things to Union.  
Thanks & Happy Collecting, Jerry Blais


 
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From [email protected]  Fri Feb 16 07:42:04 2007
From: [email protected] (Andrew Baron)
Date: Fri Feb 16 07:42:34 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping Herzog & NCR P.S.
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Fabulous, detailed description.
Thank you.

Andy Baron

On Feb 15, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Rich wrote:

> To pack an Edison spring drive phono you have to remove the  
> mechanism from the case and pack them
> separately.  Now to pack the mechanism you should do at least the  
> following: Bread tie the governor
> weights on both sides.  Wrap a piece of closed cell polyethylene  
> foam around the governor and tie
> down.  Find a box that the motor will fit into and the bedplate  
> will set on top of.  Trim height so spring
> barrel is almost on bottom.  Place piece of fibre carpet pad in  
> bottom to set spring on.  Buy a can of
> urethane foam.  Sprinkle inside of box with a light mist of tap  
> water.  Fill box about 1/3 full of foam,
> maybe a little less.  Let it set for about 15 min.  drape 2 layers  
> of plastic wrap over foam in box and
> lapped over all sides.  Set works into foam box.  let cure for at  
> least 24 hours at room temperature.
> After cure make sure that reproducer is NOt in carriage.  Wrap  
> around box in both directions with
> shrink wrap, this will hold it all together.  Make a box or collar  
> to fit over and cover topworks.  Shrink
> wrap top down.  If you think that the packing might rub on the  
> finish and mark it then use sandwich
> wrap to protect (buy at SAMs).  You now have a nice rectangular  
> block that will go into the larger box.
> Use corner cardboards to suspend the works box inside the outer  
> box.  These are the "W" shaped
> pieces of cardboard.  The case is straightforward.  put sandwich  
> wrap paper between the lid and base.
> Wrap with shrink wrap and pack in a big box.  you can use peanuts  
> if you compress them tightly.
> Secure these packages initially with the standard sticky tape.   
> Then go over all of the sticky tape with
> water activated fiberglass reinforced heavy paper tape.  This will  
> pass the 6 foot drop test.  I pack them
> like this and then registered mail them.  They show up without a  
> scratch.  there is about $10 to $12
> dollars of packing materials in this.  Every town in the country  
> has a box company either in town or
> the next town.  This is where you get the corner supports and  
> boxes.  The corner supports go on all
> sides in the corners, that is twelve to the box and that suspends  
> the mech inside the outer box.  make
> sure that the corner supports still have some spring in them to  
> absorb shocks.
>
> This takes longer to tell than to do.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:55:50 -0600, Robert Wright wrote:
>
>> Then the one pervading rule is:  if it's gonna get shipped, it's  
>> gonna get
>> damaged.
>
>> I guess I'll continue to consider myself very lucky that I only  
>> have two
>> negative experiences out of ... let's see...  going on about 17  
>> years of
>> mail-order and shipping things in general now.  And it only  
>> happened 2 years
>> ago, spawning my policy of instructing the seller on packing.  It  
>> was one of
>> my Dual 1019 turntables, and luck was against it.  The seller  
>> didn't know to
>> remove the 7 pound platter, which you MUST do with the pressboad/ 
>> plywood
>> plinth turntables before shipping, in addition to tightening the  
>> transport
>> screws that bind the baseplate to the plinth.  Well, the transport  
>> screw
>> washers broke free of the plinth and demolished it.  I didn't need  
>> the
>> plinth, it wasn't a 'nice' one to begin with and I had the one I  
>> wanted to
>> use already, but there were metal parts bent up inside that made the
>> automatic changer useless and the speed/pitch control useless.  And
>> "FRAGILE" was nowhere on the package.
>
>> The other negative experience was the 20" Pathe I've mentioned.
>
>> Rich, you said, "I have seen the mechanism of Edison homes blasted  
>> through
>> the side of an inner cardboard box and dents on the inside of the  
>> outer box,
>> and it was very well packed."  If that's the case, then what else  
>> could've
>> been done?
>
>> I still think Rich had the best idea for super-rare and super- 
>> valuable --
>> get it in writing that they'll ship it Registered Mail FIRST, and  
>> then raise
>> holy hell with a lawyer in tow if anything bad happens.
>
>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>
>
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew Baron" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:02 PM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping Herzog & NCR P.S.
>
>
>>> Hello all ~
>>>
>>> It occurred to me that it's probably relevant to mention that  
>>> NONE of  the
>>> items I mentioned in my last posting about shipping damage were   
>>> procured
>>> from eBay sellers or any other on-line auctions.  I  say  this to  
>>> separate
>>> the shipping issue from the eBay issues that get  discussed here  
>>> from time
>>> to time.
>>>
>>> The Herzog cabinet was purchased from an established and reputable
>>> dealer, the lamp was a family heirloom being shipped to me from  
>>> a  close
>>> family member in a distant state and the antique cash register   
>>> was from
>>> an antique store in Florida that I have done repairs and  trades  
>>> with
>>> since I was a young teen.
>>>
>>> Andy Baron
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