At the April 13-14 Stanton's Auction, an Edison Ideal with a C reproducer was 
sold.  Does anyone in the group know the condition of this machine, whether or 
not it had a horn, and the selling price.  Thanks for any info you can supply 
about it.

Ray Wilenzick
From [email protected]  Tue Jul 10 13:32:28 2007
From: [email protected] (john robles)
Date: Tue Jul 10 13:35:35 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Smooth oak horn question - sort of urgent
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hi All
  This is such a great forum, and there's so much knowledge here...that Edison 
Wrench discussion was really lively!
  This time it is simpler. I bought an oak horn from eBay, from a guy with 100% 
positive feedback, largely on phonograph items, and a 7 day return policy which 
I am afraid I may have to use. I received the horn today, but in spite of his 
saying there were a few minor repairs virtually invisible to the eye, it seems 
to me there are many major repairs totally visibile. Problem is they all look 
old and the color match is good. But the patterns of the angles at which the 
wood comes together don't make sense to me. Check the pics at this link and 
tell me if I should send it back right away!!
  http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Oak%20Horn/
  Thanks
  John
From [email protected]  Tue Jul 10 14:06:33 2007
From: [email protected] (Walt)
Date: Tue Jul 10 14:11:08 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Smooth oak horn question - sort of urgent
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <008a01c7c336$35336740$0201a...@daddell>

Hi John,

I looked at your set of pictures and compared them to those on the eBay
listing along with the description. He describes it in the eBay auction as
having "TINY TINY REPAIRS WHICH ARE NOT EASILY VISIBLE WITH THE NAKED EYE"
(emphasis: his). But your pictures tell a different and true story. If he
had left the text as saying merely "tiny tiny repairs" I don't think you
could really complain because subjective language is a tough thing to nail
down, but he states definitively that the repairs "are not easily visible
with the naked eye". Maybe he is going blind - I don't know. But, my eyes
are pretty naked and those gaping wounds in that horn are egregious. If he
would just have dropped the word "NOT" in the sentence, it would be
accurate.

That horn needs at least $400 in repairs and that assumes that the joints
that were botched would easily come apart (and I suspect from the pictures
that they might just jump at the opportunity). I'd pay about $300 to $350
for a horn that was damaged like that only because I can do the repairs
correctly and could probably turn it around for a decent profit.

If I were in your boat, I think I would send it back...Even if the guy gave
you a $300 refund or something on that order, you would still need to have
it repaired the right way.

Walt

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of john robles
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Smooth oak horn question - sort of urgent

Hi All
  This is such a great forum, and there's so much knowledge here...that
Edison Wrench discussion was really lively!
  This time it is simpler. I bought an oak horn from eBay, from a guy with
100% positive feedback, largely on phonograph items, and a 7 day return
policy which I am afraid I may have to use. I received the horn today, but
in spite of his saying there were a few minor repairs virtually invisible to
the eye, it seems to me there are many major repairs totally visibile.
Problem is they all look old and the color match is good. But the patterns
of the angles at which the wood comes together don't make sense to me. Check
the pics at this link and tell me if I should send it back right away!!
  http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Oak%20Horn/
  Thanks
  John
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