Bruce, I don't believe I've ever seen a Linenoid horn for Victor - that's a rare bird!
George -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:15 am Subject: [Phono-L] Linenoid Horn I have a black linenoid horn designed to fit into a victor elbow. It has three narrow gold bands painted around the outside closer to the bell side. I got it on a victor MS several years ago. I'm guessing the original owner upgraded. Anyway it's really too big for a victor MS, more suited for a victor V, D, or VI. The dark laquered look would make it go especially well with a VI but I have only one VI and some horns that suit it better. Bruce Johnson Pod Valem II, 870 252 43 Pruhonice Czech Republic Tel: (CZ) + 420 602 362 473 Tel: (US) + 1 612 605 5242 _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From [email protected] Fri Aug 17 07:35:06 2007 From: [email protected] (Robert Plavzic) Date: Fri Aug 17 07:37:32 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] wow. In-Reply-To: <001601c7df3d$5cd6d250$81c3c...@hpegoy8tx76bnm> References: <000e01c7df38$8efc98f0$0301a...@daddell> <001601c7df3d$5cd6d250$81c3c...@hpegoy8tx76bnm> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hi Unfortunately thse have been around for a while, usually popping up at antique markets. Probably they are less popular than the 'traditional' crapophonies as the 'traditional' models look more attractive (relatively speaking of course!!!!) to people with money to waste. Blickfang means eye catching. regards Rob On 8/15/07, Jim Galoppa <[email protected]> wrote: > > One of these just sold at the local "Antique" auction last weekend for a > wopping $350.00, No wonder they call this "Slower Lower Delaware" !!! > > Jim G. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walt" <[email protected]> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:33 AM > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] wow. > > > The best thing about it is that it won't take up as much space as some of > the others. The worst part is that there is less brass to take to the > scrap > yard and get cash for. At least the seller isn't saying that it is an > antique. He states clearly that it is brand new and that the only > "genuine" > thing about it is: "EIN ECHTER BLICKFANG". It's a blickfang alright, but > aren't they all? LOL.... > > Yes, indeed, a BLICKFANG....(Loran, can we say that here???) > > W > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Robert Wright > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:13 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] wow. > > Anyone seen the 'new' crapophones out there? I can't even imagine they'd > function, based on this picture. Amazing. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Nost-GRAMMOPHON-HIS-MASTERS-VOICE-Selten_W0QQitemZ120150 > 839455QQihZ002QQcategoryZ26512QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 > 5:19 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Fri Aug 17 11:44:04 2007 From: [email protected] (Loran Hughes) Date: Fri Aug 17 11:46:34 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] wow. In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <000e01c7df38$8efc98f0$0301a...@daddell> <001601c7df3d$5cd6d250$81c3c...@hpegoy8tx76bnm> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> You can see a couple of similar models in the crap-o-phone catalog at http://www.oldcrank.com/articles/crapophone/Introduction_files/ catalog-1.pdf or http://tinyurl.com/18r (warning: 2.7 MB PDF!) Loran On Aug 17, 2007, at 7:35 AM, Robert Plavzic wrote: > Hi > > Unfortunately thse have been around for a while, usually popping up at > antique markets. Probably they are less popular than the 'traditional' > crapophonies as the 'traditional' models look more attractive > (relatively > speaking of course!!!!) to people with money to waste. > > Blickfang means eye catching. > > regards > > Rob From [email protected] Fri Aug 17 12:01:38 2007 From: [email protected] (Loran Hughes) Date: Fri Aug 17 12:17:47 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] wow. In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <000e01c7df38$8efc98f0$0301a...@daddell> <001601c7df3d$5cd6d250$81c3c...@hpegoy8tx76bnm> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> OK, that link was a disaster! http://www.oldcrank.com/articles/crapophone/Introduction_files/ catalog-1.pdf Loran From [email protected] Fri Aug 17 13:03:26 2007 From: [email protected] (Scott Colgrove) Date: Fri Aug 17 13:05:52 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] OT: Going to Las Vegas soon? Message-ID: <00d301c7e109$ac9fd660$6700a...@scott> I have a $20 cashout voucher for the Excalibur casino in LV that expires on 9/10/07. If you are going (or know somebody that is going), let me know and I will send the voucher to you (give voucher to casino, they give you $20). I hate throwing away money (which is what will happen on 9/10) so please use this! From [email protected] Fri Aug 17 12:53:59 2007 From: [email protected] (Scott Colgrove) Date: Fri Aug 17 13:23:47 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] WTB: Edison Amberola V front grill Message-ID: <00c101c7e108$5a6c8d80$6700a...@scott> I am looking for an ORIGINAL Edison Amberola V front grill. If available please contact me offline. Thanks, Scott From [email protected] Fri Aug 17 13:20:41 2007 From: [email protected] (Walt) Date: Fri Aug 17 13:28:05 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] wow. In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <00f901c7e10c$17ed18e0$0301a...@daddell> Awwwwww.....Rob said, "Blickfang"...LOL... (I knew that blickfang is German for "eye catching" or "an eye catcher" but it just sorta sounds like it ought to be one of those nasty forbidden words....(Can I get a little help here, a chuckle?...I think my humor missed the mark...<frown>...I better quit...) What is amazing about these inventions is that many intelligent, normal, everyday, otherwise rational people who don't have an understanding of antiques in general or phonographs in particular, cannot discern between genuine artifacts and imposters because they have no experience and they honestly cannot tell the difference right off. But, intelligence is at least on their side, so they can be taught. It really doesn't take much knowledge to be able to see it, but unless you point things out, even egregious things, the uneducated just can't discern. Most of us have had the luxury of learning the look and feel of genuine artifacts long before the present mass production of crap-o-phones even existed (albeit Franken-phones have been around since well before our time or even Loran's!). But, thankfully, we can and do, as collectors, freely provide assistance to others through forums like this. I have been able to point out specific features to other people about these creations (partly by using Loran's writings and also using my own practical knowledge) and have helped more than a few people learn about what to look for and how to identify frauds. The obvious target of their marketing is the uneducated buyer - the fast buck. The inventors and sellers of these aren't trying to dupe folks like us who breathe phonographs like air because they can't and it is especially sad that certain online auctions and venues (I need not mention the biggest one in the world because I don't want to advertise for them) will actually smack your hands and threaten to nix your account if, out of an honest and genuine concern, you try to warn a buyer to be careful. This is yet another reason that I am thankful to be a part of a group of intelligent and educated phonograph collectors like those who contribute to this list who care enough to share their experience and knowledge with others. Walt ----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Plavzic Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:35 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] wow. Hi Unfortunately thse have been around for a while, usually popping up at antique markets. Probably they are less popular than the 'traditional' crapophonies as the 'traditional' models look more attractive (relatively speaking of course!!!!) to people with money to waste. Blickfang means eye catching. regards Rob On 8/15/07, Jim Galoppa <[email protected]> wrote: > > One of these just sold at the local "Antique" auction last weekend for a > wopping $350.00, No wonder they call this "Slower Lower Delaware" !!! > > Jim G. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walt" <[email protected]> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:33 AM > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] wow. > > > The best thing about it is that it won't take up as much space as some of > the others. The worst part is that there is less brass to take to the > scrap > yard and get cash for. At least the seller isn't saying that it is an > antique. He states clearly that it is brand new and that the only > "genuine" > thing about it is: "EIN ECHTER BLICKFANG". It's a blickfang alright, but > aren't they all? LOL.... > > Yes, indeed, a BLICKFANG....(Loran, can we say that here???) > > W > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Robert Wright > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:13 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] wow. > > Anyone seen the 'new' crapophones out there? I can't even imagine they'd > function, based on this picture. Amazing. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Nost-GRAMMOPHON-HIS-MASTERS-VOICE-Selten_W0QQitemZ120150 > 839455QQihZ002QQcategoryZ26512QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 > 5:19 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM
