Hi, Just catching up on emails. Where did the sound come out on this phono??
Thanks Ger ger55 on ebay; [email protected] Victorian Glass Plus! http://www.tias.com/stores/vgpp http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glass_antique_and_old/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kat Hall To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Class M concert on ebay It went for $27,677.00. >From the Desk of Kat Hall Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) Review Coordinator www.champagnebooks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Class M concert on ebay > > Didi you folks check this out. What an incredible item for anyone's collection. The mandrel looks funky in the pictures, but overall very nice machine. Does anyone know how many of these were made? Right now it's at $25,000 with a few more hours to go. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-EDISON-CLASS-M-COIN-OP-CONCERT-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH_W0QQitemZ280144405331QQihZ018QQcategoryZ38029QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sat Aug 25 17:02:43 2007 From: [email protected] (Andrew Baron) Date: Sat Aug 25 17:05:40 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] A-250 COMPILATION SUMMARY In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hello to all and apologies for the very delayed reply. Rich's inquiry got me to finally sit down and sort out all the data into a readable compilation. We have fairly comprehensive information on only three A-250's, with only control lever information on two of others. Two of the three A-250's have differing serial numbers between the dataplate on the cabinet and the embossed number found on the surface bedplate under the platter, so there are more serial numbers represented here than machines. Please read on for additional information on the interesting differing details and dates found on these A-250's. I had fun compiling this list, and very much hope to add to it, as those of you who own or know of another A-250 and are willing to take a look at them and contribute. Best regards to all, Andy Baron Santa Fe, NM Edison A-250 Disc Phonograph: Search for differences in details, and study to determine approximate time of manufacture. Answers appear in same order as on questionnaire. If the motor board has a different serial number than the dataplate on the cabinet, results for specific motor and motor board details are listed under the motor board serial number (found on the bedplate under platter), while all other results are listed under the cabinet dataplate number. Motor board serial numbers are listed without their A1 suffix, and cabinet (dataplate) numbers are listed without their SM prefix. Please note that questions 14, 15,16 and 17 have been added to the previous inquiry list. Owner name (question 13) is optional. This compilation currently maintains the same question order as the original questionnaire, with added questions at the bottom, but may be updated in future to a better organized format. Note that we now have three different PRINTING FORM dates, and two different DATAPLATE dates, from which we can narrow down the approximate production dates of the A-250. To compare date results, based on the dataplate patent number and Form 631 printing form date, see 10b and 11. Please let us know if you have a date not shown here. To see details of John D. Robles? A-250, refer to http:// s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Edison%20A-250/ To see early vs. late details, Refer to photos posted on: http:// homepage.mac.com/pjfraser/phono/PhotoAlbum233.html Directions from Peter Fraser on accessing these photos: the password is "pook2e" (no quotes). Additional A-250 notes, courtesy of Ron Dethlefson are reproduced at the end of this document. Thanks to Peter Fraser, Ronald Dethlefson and John D. Robles for contributing. Please consider adding your data to this study. Thank you, Andy Baron Santa Fe, NM 2) Start/stop levers style: EARLY: Serial #158, #161, #171, #1429 LATE: Serial #5751, #12080 3) Bedplate corner detail: EARLY: Serial #1429 MIDDLE (Similar to early but dots in different place): Serial #5751 LATE: Serial #12033 4) # of PIVOTING oil hole covers on bedplate: TWO: Serial #1429, #5751 ONE: Serial #12033 5) Tone modulator present?: NO: Serial #1429 YES: Serial #12033 (dataplate #13417), Serial #12080 (dataplate #5751) 6) Key escutcheon style: FLUSH MOUNT EMBEDDED: Serial #1429, #12080 SURFACE MOUNT WITH GOLD TRIM NAILS: Serial #13417 7) Depth of upper grille groove: 1/4 INCH: Serial #1429, #12080 1/2 INCH: Serial #13417 7b) Grille fretwork thickness: 5/16 INCH: Serial #1429 1/4 INCH: Serial #12080 3/8 INCH: Serial #13417 7c) Overall height of grill frame: 13 3/4 INCH: Serial #12080 13 7/8 INCH: Serial #13417 8) Louvres on cabinet as per Amberola 1A? YES: NO: Serial #1429, #12080, #13417 9) Side veneer number of sections per panel: ONE: Serial #1429, #12080 TWO: Serial #13417 10) Form 632 present? NO: YES: Serial #1429, #12080, #13417 10a) Location of Form 632: INSIDE BACK DOOR (upside down when closed): Serial #1429, #12080 FLOOR OF HORN COMPARTMENT: Serial #13417 10b) Printer?s date at bottom of Form 632: 11-20-12: Serial #1429 4-3-14: Serial #12080 8-20-14: Serial #13417 11) Latest patent date on dataplate: 8-29-11: Serial #1429 3-11-13: Serial #12080, #13417 12) Other notes: Serial #13417: There?s a second paper measuring 2 1/2 x 1 1/8, printed with ?No: 13417, Disc Phonograph, Model A-250? affixed to the floor of horn compartment by two tacks. 13) Owner (optional): Serial #161: Ron Dethlefson Serial #1429: Andy Baron Serial #12080 (dataplate), #5751 A1: John D. Robles Serial #13417 (dataplate), #12033-A1: Jim Fox 14) Direction of winding gear teeth in relation to crank: STRAIGHT: Serial #1429 ANGLED: Serial #13417 15) Oil tubes present at winding stem bushings? (this is a tube pair from a single cup): NO: Serial #1429 YES: Serial #12033 16) Serial number (matching or otherwise) stamped in motor frame? NO: Serial #1429 YES: Serial #13417 17) Evidence of original grille cloth, and color? NO: YES: Serial #13417 emerald green
