I thought these were either phonograph only or phonograph/music box combos.  
Don't think I have ever seen just a music box one.

Referred to as the Lion's head Columbia.  I think the last phonograph only one 
Bob Johnson bought on Ebay went for around $8-8.5k.



-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Albert" <[email protected]> 

> I have been looking at these for years. The going rate seems to be $6500. 
> phonograph only, $12,500. with the Music box. only and $13,000 to 15,000 
> with both. There was one at Union that was totally restored that was 
> priced at $22,000. That one is probably still available and shows up on 
> ebay often. I think the owner is Musical Treasures of Miami. Al 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "john robles" 
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:10 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style 
> 
> 
> > They bring $500. I will send you a checkl. LOL, just kidding - I saw one 
> > at the CAPS show this year, I believe it was a high price but I am sorry I 
> > can't remember. I think it was $2500 or more though. Anyone else who was 
> > there remember?? 
> > John Robles 
> > 
> > Stephen and Michelle Steenhuizen wrote: 
> > Hello all 
> > 
> > There have been a few of these on or auctioned through ebay recently of 
> > which all have brought a reasonable amount. All had the music box 
> > mechanism. 
> > What my question is. How much less do they bring when they don't have the 
> > added music box and only the gramophone mechanics. 
> > 
> > regards Stephen Steenhuizen 
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From [email protected]  Thu Sep  6 12:28:16 2007
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Sep  6 12:45:48 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style
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References: <000401c7f0b0$87a29d00$c801a...@albert>
        <78f115b262f33faf3ea7cacc0e9d1...@localhost>
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hello all
i just bought one but got a good deal from a friend
but in regards to union
there was one there two years ago for 12 k and the one at the neunan auction 
with buyers premium went for just under 13 k
best to all
its a great machine
but be carefull both columbia and regina produced them and there are differences
both in the tone arm and the record storage area as well as the lock area
best to all
zono


-----Original Message-----
From: bkasindorf <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style



2 Just sold in GA for around $12000 for complete 240s with phono parts.
The phono only ones I have seen from $4000 to $5500 in reasonable shape. 
There is not a version of the music box that is music box only, it is just 
missing the phono arm and turntable sometimes,
the mechanism in those is always a musicbox and phonograph.
-Barry

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:05:38 -0700, "Albert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been looking at these for years.  The going rate seems to be $6500.
> phonograph only, $12,500. with the Music box. only  and $13,000 to 15,000
> with both.  There was one at Union that was totally  restored that was
> priced at $22,000.  That one is probably  still available and shows up on
> ebay often.  I think the owner is Musical Treasures of Miami.  Al
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john robles" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style
> 
> 
>> They bring $500. I will send you a checkl. LOL, just kidding - I saw one
>> at the CAPS show this year, I believe it was a high price but I am sorry
> I
>> can't remember.  I think it was $2500 or more though. Anyone else who
> was
>> there remember??
>>  John Robles
>>
>> Stephen and Michelle Steenhuizen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  Hello all
>>
>> There have been a few of these on or auctioned through ebay recently of
>> which all have brought a reasonable amount. All had the music box
>> mechanism.
>> What my question is. How much less do they bring when they don't have
> the
>> added music box and only the gramophone mechanics.
>>
>> regards Stephen Steenhuizen
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
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From [email protected]  Thu Sep  6 13:47:05 2007
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Sep  6 13:49:56 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2007 1:10:27 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

2 Just  sold in GA for around $12000 for complete 240s with phono parts.
The phono  only ones I have seen from $4000 to $5500 in reasonable shape. 
There is  not a version of the music box that is music box only, it is just 
missing the  phono arm and turntable sometimes,
the mechanism in those is always a  musicbox and phonograph.
-Barry

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:05:38 -0700,  "Albert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been looking at  these for years.  The going rate seems to be $6500.
> phonograph  only, $12,500. with the Music box. only  and $13,000 to 15,000
>  with both.  There was one at Union that was totally  restored that  was
> priced at $22,000.  That one is probably  still  available and shows up on
> ebay often.  I think the owner is  Musical Treasures of Miami.  Al
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "john robles" <[email protected]>
> To:  "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday,  September 06, 2007 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re columbia  Graphonola delux first style


One sold on eBay about three months ago.  The was phonograph only and  went 
for about $2800.  The case was very nice, needed a minimum of  restoration, and 
the phonograph was not working.  It came from Craig,  Colorado, and I guess I 
should have bought it.  I could have driven over  from Denver---but I didn't! 
 Oh well,
it was just another floor model that I didn't want to fill the house  with!  
I even showed it to the OWAPS group and they passed on it!  You  live and 
learn!
---Art Heller
 
 



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From [email protected]  Thu Sep  6 15:29:15 2007
From: [email protected] (Bob Johnson)
Date: Thu Sep  6 15:33:22 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style
In-Reply-To: 
<090620071902.3915.46e04ebf000dfe4600000f4b2200748184cdce039...@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

FYI...I paid $6,300 for it in Nov. 04.  Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List; Antique Phonograph List
Cc: Albert
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style

I thought these were either phonograph only or phonograph/music box combos.
Don't think I have ever seen just a music box one.

Referred to as the Lion's head Columbia.  I think the last phonograph only
one Bob Johnson bought on Ebay went for around $8-8.5k.



-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Albert" <[email protected]> 

> I have been looking at these for years. The going rate seems to be $6500. 
> phonograph only, $12,500. with the Music box. only and $13,000 to 15,000 
> with both. There was one at Union that was totally restored that was 
> priced at $22,000. That one is probably still available and shows up on 
> ebay often. I think the owner is Musical Treasures of Miami. Al 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "john robles" 
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:10 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re columbia Graphonola delux first style 
> 
> 
> > They bring $500. I will send you a checkl. LOL, just kidding - I saw one

> > at the CAPS show this year, I believe it was a high price but I am sorry
I 
> > can't remember. I think it was $2500 or more though. Anyone else who was

> > there remember?? 
> > John Robles 
> > 
> > Stephen and Michelle Steenhuizen wrote: 
> > Hello all 
> > 
> > There have been a few of these on or auctioned through ebay recently of 
> > which all have brought a reasonable amount. All had the music box 
> > mechanism. 
> > What my question is. How much less do they bring when they don't have
the 
> > added music box and only the gramophone mechanics. 
> > 
> > regards Stephen Steenhuizen 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Phono-L mailing list 
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Phono-L mailing list 
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 
> 
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