Once you register the NYT sets a tracking cookie on YOUR computer.  So 
the next time you select a NYT story you bypass the registration page.

tim venetis wrote:
> i must be going to a different page i do not see registration page
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
> 
> 
> remember that most of our membership is more comfortable with
> crank'n'spring technology than that of today.  so use tinyurl.com for
> any long or complex urls, and check for any registration requirement
> on links you provide.
> 
> and if you get a registration page, folks, well, just register.  and
> then you'll be able to see what is offered.  registration may seem
> like a privacy invasion of sorts but you can always give phony info -
> all that is really needed is a valid email adr.
> 
> and the New York Times has lots of great content so it's worth
> registering anyway...
> 
> On Nov 20, 2007, at 8:28 AM, tim venetis wrote:
> 
>> this is what came up on the link
>> 100125690[1].pdf
>>
>> Published: December 18, 1914
>> Copyright ? The New York Times
>> I downloaded adobey reader 8 and i also got that information
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>
>>
>>> No, it does not unless it is clicked from YOUR (Tim Ventis)  
>>> computer. For everyone else it dumps you at the NYT login page.
>>>
>>> tim venetis wrote:
>>>> this link brings up a download pdf file to download
>>>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9C0CE1DA1438E633A2575BC1A9649D946596D6CF&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
>>>>  
>>>> -  ---- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce, the link takes you to the registration page for the NYT.   
>>>>> That is why it fails unless it is you with your cookies.
>>>>>
>>>>> BruceY wrote:
>>>>>> That is strange, when I click on the link below, I get the whole  
>>>>>> news artcle from December of 1914.  I don't understand why it  
>>>>>> doesn't open for you. I wish it did though. It is very  interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C0CE1DA1438E633A2575BC1A9649D946596D6CF&oref=slogin
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -   ---- Original Message ----- From: "tim venetis" 
>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:37 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when i go to the link there is a pdf file to download so I  found 
>>>>>>> a pdf to txt but it does not read much just when it was  written
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <[email protected]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:23 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is fascinating, Len Spencer talked at his own Funeral, 
>>>>>>>> reciting the Lord's Prayer and 23rd Psalm!! Here is the actual 
>>>>>>>> newsclipping from 1914!! and then read what happened to the 
>>>>>>>> records, at his request.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C0CE1DA1438E633A2575BC1A9649D946596D6CF&oref=slogin
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 
>>>>>>> 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
From [email protected]  Wed Nov 21 11:01:38 2007
From: [email protected] (Peter Fraser)
Date: Wed Nov 21 12:29:17 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <005d01c82b2d$14906830$6401a...@user52c8f93503>     
<000501c82b72$1cb529c0$5852c...@timead073317c3> 
<003c01c82b77$3edc32a0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> <[email protected]>  
<000c01c82b81$371ca9a0$5852c...@timead073317c3> <[email protected]>  
<000a01c82b92$5fbb7740$5852c...@timead073317c3> 
<[email protected]>
        <[email protected]>
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

With that list of concerns, it might be best to not use email or the  
Internet at all...

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
[email protected]

On Nov 21, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

> My $0.02 worth.  It is not the idea of using a "throw away" e-mail  
> that I object to, it is the hubris of the organization requesting  
> registration to start with.  And just what does the organization  
> behind the Tiny URL service do with all of those original URLs?  If  
> you can not deal with the original direct URL, tough.  You may have  
> noticed if you do a deal of internet shopping that there is a quiet  
> movement to let you purchase from an internet site with out  
> "registering".  You are giving them a billing, shipping, and credit  
> card number.  Thy usually request an e-mail to send the confirmation  
> to but that is not a requirement. change is coming.  For the  
> computer initiated, check out google-analytics.
>
> I do wonder what happened to the funeral recordings.  Trashed I  
> suspect.
>
> Loran Hughes wrote:
>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
>>> and if you get a registration page, folks, well, just register.   
>>> and then you'll be able to see what is offered.  registration may  
>>> seem like a privacy invasion of sorts but you can always give  
>>> phony info - all that is really needed is a valid email adr.
>> I keep a "throw away" email address specifically to do such things.  
>> Just get a Gmail, Yahoo, or other free account, open with a fake  
>> name if you like, and register away.
>> Loran
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
From [email protected]  Wed Nov 21 10:59:27 2007
From: [email protected] (Peter Fraser)
Date: Wed Nov 21 12:29:21 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
In-Reply-To: <002601c82c6e$d3a2ddb0$5852c...@timead073317c3>
References: <005d01c82b2d$14906830$6401a...@user52c8f93503>
        <000501c82b72$1cb529c0$5852c...@timead073317c3>
        <003c01c82b77$3edc32a0$6401a...@user52c8f93503>
        <[email protected]>
        <000c01c82b81$371ca9a0$5852c...@timead073317c3>
        <[email protected]>
        <000a01c82b92$5fbb7740$5852c...@timead073317c3>
        <[email protected]>
        <002601c82c6e$d3a2ddb0$5852c...@timead073317c3>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

That's because you already registered once, and the site remembers you  
via cookies, so it just lets you through.

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
[email protected]

On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:46 AM, tim venetis <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> i must be going to a different page i do not see registration page
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" <[email protected] 
> >
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>
>
> remember that most of our membership is more comfortable with
> crank'n'spring technology than that of today.  so use tinyurl.com for
> any long or complex urls, and check for any registration requirement
> on links you provide.
>
> and if you get a registration page, folks, well, just register.  and
> then you'll be able to see what is offered.  registration may seem
> like a privacy invasion of sorts but you can always give phony info -
> all that is really needed is a valid email adr.
>
> and the New York Times has lots of great content so it's worth
> registering anyway...
>
> On Nov 20, 2007, at 8:28 AM, tim venetis wrote:
>
>> this is what came up on the link
>> 100125690[1].pdf
>>
>> Published: December 18, 1914
>> Copyright ? The New York Times
>> I downloaded adobey reader 8 and i also got that information
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>
>>
>>> No, it does not unless it is clicked from YOUR (Tim Ventis)   
>>> computer. For everyone else it dumps you at the NYT login page.
>>>
>>> tim venetis wrote:
>>>> this link brings up a download pdf file to download
>>>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9C0CE1DA1438E633A2575BC1A9649D946596D6CF&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
>>>>  
>>>>  -  ---- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich- 
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce, the link takes you to the registration page for the  
>>>>> NYT.   That is why it fails unless it is you with your cookies.
>>>>>
>>>>> BruceY wrote:
>>>>>> That is strange, when I click on the link below, I get the  
>>>>>> whole  news artcle from December of 1914.  I don't understand  
>>>>>> why it  doesn't open for you. I wish it did though. It is very   
>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C0CE1DA1438E633A2575BC1A9649D946596D6CF&oref=slogin
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  -   ---- Original Message ----- From: "tim venetis" 
>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:37 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when i go to the link there is a pdf file to download so I   
>>>>>>> found a pdf to txt but it does not read much just when it was   
>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <[email protected]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:23 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is fascinating, Len Spencer talked at his own Funeral,  
>>>>>>>> reciting the Lord's Prayer and 23rd Psalm!! Here is the  
>>>>>>>> actual newsclipping from 1914!! and then read what happened  
>>>>>>>> to the records, at his request.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C0CE1DA1438E633A2575BC1A9649D946596D6CF&oref=slogin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus  
>>>>>>> Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> _______________________________________________
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> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
From [email protected]  Wed Nov 21 13:01:23 2007
From: [email protected] (Rich)
Date: Wed Nov 21 13:01:37 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <005d01c82b2d$14906830$6401a...@user52c8f93503>     
<000501c82b72$1cb529c0$5852c...@timead073317c3> 
<003c01c82b77$3edc32a0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> <[email protected]>  
<000c01c82b81$371ca9a0$5852c...@timead073317c3> <[email protected]>  
<000a01c82b92$5fbb7740$5852c...@timead073317c3> 
<[email protected]>   
<[email protected]>     
<[email protected]>
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

And as you can see, the iPhone is not that nice either.  I bet this is 
not in the EULA..

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/11/12686/

Peter Fraser wrote:
> With that list of concerns, it might be best to not use email or the 
> Internet at all...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- Peter
> [email protected]
> 
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> My $0.02 worth.  It is not the idea of using a "throw away" e-mail 
>> that I object to, it is the hubris of the organization requesting 
>> registration to start with.  And just what does the organization 
>> behind the Tiny URL service do with all of those original URLs?  If 
>> you can not deal with the original direct URL, tough.  You may have 
>> noticed if you do a deal of internet shopping that there is a quiet 
>> movement to let you purchase from an internet site with out 
>> "registering".  You are giving them a billing, shipping, and credit 
>> card number.  Thy usually request an e-mail to send the confirmation 
>> to but that is not a requirement. change is coming.  For the computer 
>> initiated, check out google-analytics.
>>
>> I do wonder what happened to the funeral recordings.  Trashed I suspect.
>>
>> Loran Hughes wrote:
>>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
>>>> and if you get a registration page, folks, well, just register.  and 
>>>> then you'll be able to see what is offered.  registration may seem 
>>>> like a privacy invasion of sorts but you can always give phony info 
>>>> - all that is really needed is a valid email adr.
>>> I keep a "throw away" email address specifically to do such things. 
>>> Just get a Gmail, Yahoo, or other free account, open with a fake name 
>>> if you like, and register away.
>>> Loran
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
> 
From [email protected]  Wed Nov 21 14:44:04 2007
From: [email protected] (ger)
Date: Wed Nov 21 14:44:15 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Regina Hexaphone: update
Message-ID: <001301c82c90$05790870$74f00...@ger1>

Hi all,

Today I got the Regina Hexaphone (model 102) to work too! :)) I think it has 
the same "poops" which the Zonophone had: needs degreasing and regreasing, 
maybe an adjustment or 2. The first part of the mechanical mechanism is very 
sluggish, but you can choose one of 6 records, then wind it up and it plays 
records (Blue Amberol) with gusto (sounds super) up to about the half- 2/3 way 
mark. At that point it dies out unless you pick up the head...then it runs 
itself out. Again, to me a sign of sluggish dirty old poops...but I'm no 
expert. However, I have to admit that it gave me such a thrill to hear it again 
;) That built-in wooden horn sure does nice sound-projecting.

Ger
From [email protected]  Wed Nov 21 15:51:40 2007
From: [email protected] (Peter Fraser)
Date: Wed Nov 21 15:51:55 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Len Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <005d01c82b2d$14906830$6401a...@user52c8f93503>     
<000501c82b72$1cb529c0$5852c...@timead073317c3> 
<003c01c82b77$3edc32a0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> <[email protected]>  
<000c01c82b81$371ca9a0$5852c...@timead073317c3> <[email protected]>  
<000a01c82b92$5fbb7740$5852c...@timead073317c3> 
<[email protected]>   
<[email protected]>     
<[email protected]>
        <[email protected]>
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

again, with this sort of worry on your mind, perhaps it might be best  
for you to not use email or the Internet at all...

On Nov 21, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Rich wrote:

> And as you can see, the iPhone is not that nice either.  I bet this  
> is not in the EULA..
>
> http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/11/12686/
>
> Peter Fraser wrote:
>> With that list of concerns, it might be best to not use email or  
>> the Internet at all...
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> -- Peter
>> [email protected]
>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My $0.02 worth.  It is not the idea of using a "throw away" e-mail  
>>> that I object to, it is the hubris of the organization requesting  
>>> registration to start with.  And just what does the organization  
>>> behind the Tiny URL service do with all of those original URLs?   
>>> If you can not deal with the original direct URL, tough.  You may  
>>> have noticed if you do a deal of internet shopping that there is a  
>>> quiet movement to let you purchase from an internet site with out  
>>> "registering".  You are giving them a billing, shipping, and  
>>> credit card number.  Thy usually request an e-mail to send the  
>>> confirmation to but that is not a requirement. change is coming.   
>>> For the computer initiated, check out google-analytics.
>>>
>>> I do wonder what happened to the funeral recordings.  Trashed I  
>>> suspect.
>>>
>>> Loran Hughes wrote:
>>>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
>>>>> and if you get a registration page, folks, well, just register.   
>>>>> and then you'll be able to see what is offered.  registration  
>>>>> may seem like a privacy invasion of sorts but you can always  
>>>>> give phony info - all that is really needed is a valid email adr.
>>>> I keep a "throw away" email address specifically to do such  
>>>> things. Just get a Gmail, Yahoo, or other free account, open with  
>>>> a fake name if you like, and register away.
>>>> Loran
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> _______________________________________________
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