Dear Al, on list,
 
Sometimes eBay will allow you to contact a fellow eBayer, sometimes they will 
not.  This is extremely irritating as it often blocks me from reproducer 
research.  EBay used to be a wonderful source of information, now as you have 
noted, this is often not the case.  It is like spinning the wheel, you never 
know.
 
A man I know in Cleveland was kicked off eBay and they refused to listen to him 
until he took them to small claims court, then he got a phone call from their 
attorney asking what she could do to avoid coming to Cleveland.  He was 
reinstated.
 
Steve



> Today after an auction closed I attempted to contact a fellow eBayer, > 
> Phonofan, to send off congratulations for winning one of the very last Home > 
> phonographs to go out the door of the Edison factory. The machine actually 
> went for a > most reasonable price considering the rarity and the wood 
> grained #10 cygnet > horn. So, Phonofan, if you are on this list, major 
> congratulations to you for > winning this prize.> > Now what surprised me was 
> that eBay blocked my contact to him. About a week > ago on a non-phono 
> related item I tried to contact a bidder about the item the > newbie was 
> bidding on to tell him he was being shilled and that the item was > a modern 
> reproduction. Again eBay blocked me from contact but I thought that > was 
> because it was an active auction.> > Three weeks ago one friend of mine who 
> is into radio, musical, train, etc., > items offered a Lionel caboose on 
> eBay. A friend of ours unsuccessfully bid on > it and eBay put them both out 
> on suspension for shilling. When both > protested eBay would not say why or 
> how they did something wrong, only that eBay's > methods uncovered the 
> alleged shilling and action was taken. Simply put, "You > are guilty because 
> eBay says so!" eBay suggested my friend get PayPal so they > could track his 
> selling better and be sure no shilling was going on. In order > to get back 
> onto eBay they both had to complete an online reeducation course > of eBay 
> rules, none of which they could identify as having been broken by them.> > 
> Big Brother is watching.> > Best Wishes to Everyone,> > Al> > > > > 
> **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > 
> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025>
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From [email protected]  Sat Feb  2 17:17:47 2008
From: [email protected] (Steven Medved)
Date: Sat Feb  2 17:21:11 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay vs Amazon.com
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Rich,
 
I find myself continually impressed with you, eBay probably is older.  You are 
correct, if eBay would police the bad sellers of it feedback would not be 
necessary, but from what I have seen they only care about the money.
 
Thanks for your information,
 
Steve



> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:04:11 -0600> From: [email protected]> To: 
> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay vs Amazon.com> > I do not 
> know which is the older venue. I thought eBay was older. If > eBay is really 
> interested in integrating PayPal into the site then > require immediate 
> payment at the end of the auction, no exceptions. > Then there is no point in 
> FB for buyers, or sellers. Let the official > dispute process police the bad 
> sellers off of the site. All shipping > cost to be stated in every auction. 
> For the $$$ that eBay will be > charging they can afford it.> > Steven Medved 
> wrote:> > The feedback system on Amazon.com is one where only the seller gets 
> rated and it works good. I have bought mostly books and ink for my inkjet 
> printer, and I have never had problems buying from sellers in the 90% range. 
> This seems to work well, perhaps that is where eBay got the idea. I think if 
> they had used that idea from the beginning it would have worked much better.> 
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From [email protected]  Sat Feb  2 12:48:08 2008
From: [email protected] (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Sat Feb  2 18:00:05 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion
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I just looked. No machines except for a crapophone and very few records
showed up.

Ron

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Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:38 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion

Rich,
 
Let me know what you discover, is anyone familiar with ePier?
 
http://www.epier.com/
 
Steve



> > Yahoo has an auction site. have not looked in a long time but I will >
take a look in the AM. I am NOT a big fan of yahoo either, their > business
ethics do not measure up in my estimation.>
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