Dear Al, on list, Sometimes eBay will allow you to contact a fellow eBayer, sometimes they will not. This is extremely irritating as it often blocks me from reproducer research. EBay used to be a wonderful source of information, now as you have noted, this is often not the case. It is like spinning the wheel, you never know. A man I know in Cleveland was kicked off eBay and they refused to listen to him until he took them to small claims court, then he got a phone call from their attorney asking what she could do to avoid coming to Cleveland. He was reinstated. Steve
> Today after an auction closed I attempted to contact a fellow eBayer, > > Phonofan, to send off congratulations for winning one of the very last Home > > phonographs to go out the door of the Edison factory. The machine actually > went for a > most reasonable price considering the rarity and the wood > grained #10 cygnet > horn. So, Phonofan, if you are on this list, major > congratulations to you for > winning this prize.> > Now what surprised me was > that eBay blocked my contact to him. About a week > ago on a non-phono > related item I tried to contact a bidder about the item the > newbie was > bidding on to tell him he was being shilled and that the item was > a modern > reproduction. Again eBay blocked me from contact but I thought that > was > because it was an active auction.> > Three weeks ago one friend of mine who > is into radio, musical, train, etc., > items offered a Lionel caboose on > eBay. A friend of ours unsuccessfully bid on > it and eBay put them both out > on suspension for shilling. When both > protested eBay would not say why or > how they did something wrong, only that eBay's > methods uncovered the > alleged shilling and action was taken. Simply put, "You > are guilty because > eBay says so!" eBay suggested my friend get PayPal so they > could track his > selling better and be sure no shilling was going on. In order > to get back > onto eBay they both had to complete an online reeducation course > of eBay > rules, none of which they could identify as having been broken by them.> > > Big Brother is watching.> > Best Wishes to Everyone,> > Al> > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025> > 48)> _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sat Feb 2 17:17:47 2008 From: [email protected] (Steven Medved) Date: Sat Feb 2 17:21:11 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] eBay vs Amazon.com In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Rich, I find myself continually impressed with you, eBay probably is older. You are correct, if eBay would police the bad sellers of it feedback would not be necessary, but from what I have seen they only care about the money. Thanks for your information, Steve > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:04:11 -0600> From: [email protected]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay vs Amazon.com> > I do not > know which is the older venue. I thought eBay was older. If > eBay is really > interested in integrating PayPal into the site then > require immediate > payment at the end of the auction, no exceptions. > Then there is no point in > FB for buyers, or sellers. Let the official > dispute process police the bad > sellers off of the site. All shipping > cost to be stated in every auction. > For the $$$ that eBay will be > charging they can afford it.> > Steven Medved > wrote:> > The feedback system on Amazon.com is one where only the seller gets > rated and it works good. I have bought mostly books and ink for my inkjet > printer, and I have never had problems buying from sellers in the 90% range. > This seems to work well, perhaps that is where eBay got the idea. I think if > they had used that idea from the beginning it would have worked much better.> > > > > Steve_______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing > list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > > > > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Sat Feb 2 12:48:08 2008 From: [email protected] (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sat Feb 2 18:00:05 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000701c865dc$eb48b3c0$2f01a...@ronlherault> I just looked. No machines except for a crapophone and very few records showed up. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:38 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion Rich, Let me know what you discover, is anyone familiar with ePier? http://www.epier.com/ Steve > > Yahoo has an auction site. have not looked in a long time but I will > take a look in the AM. I am NOT a big fan of yahoo either, their > business ethics do not measure up in my estimation.> _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

