I'm trying not to sound snide here, but in 40 years collecting, I've never seen anyone do this with a reproducer . . . unbelievable that they can't figure it out! I was once fortunate enough to find a D reproducer jammed into a Home carriage eye, but this takes the cake! eBay #310020775592
John From [email protected] Tue Feb 5 14:51:32 2008 From: [email protected] (Greg Bogantz) Date: Tue Feb 5 16:06:50 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Portable phonos References: <000601c86819$e97a0be0$0200a...@office><[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <003d01c86849$a75cd780$6400a...@hpa1514n> Hi Robert, Thanks for your confidence, but I don't have personal experience with this machine. It is a Columbia 161 and uses what appears to be the #15 Viva-Tonal reproducer. I'm sure it probably sounds better than other, earlier portables, but I sincerely doubt that the audio clip that you reference was actually recorded from this machine. That clip has all the characteristics of a playback with a modern hifi phono cartridge. In particular, there is no midrange peakiness which is still characteristic of all acoustic reproducers that I know of. And the bass is far more extended than I've heard come from any acoustic reproducer played thru a horn, including the biggest exponential horns. Even if the recording was made by sticking the microphone well down inside the horn of an acoustic player, I don't thing the bass would be this good and the midrange would certainly be honkier than what we hear in this clip. I've been wrong plenty of times, but I still doubt that this recording was made from this machine. Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Wright" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Herzog Peg Layout > Only rule I can think of is never trust the original handle! I've always > liked the Victor Orthophonic suitcase models, but there's a Columbia > Viva-Tonal model out there that sounds almost hi-fi, like a Credenza. > Anyone know which one I'm talking about? Here's a pic: > > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jlf/pho/18.jpg > > And here's the page associated with the pic, with a sound clip of it > playing. > > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jlf/enphonos.htm > > I don't know how this gent mic'd the phono or anything, but the bottom end > on this machine appears to be pretty amazing. Where's Greg Bogantz? I > bet he knows about this machine. > > Best, > Robert > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thatcher Graham" <[email protected]> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Herzog Peg Layout > > >> And while I'm tapping the great knowledge bank that is the phonolist, are >> there any basic rules of thumb be applied to buying a portable >> phonograph? What types of problems are common/endemic to certain models? >> What's impossible to repair and should be inspected before purchase? >> What's a generally good make/model? etc >> >> >> >> >>> [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
