Greg, et.al. -- The fact that Morgan contracted Edison to invent metered power is the reason he dropped research on the phonograph like a hot potato in 1878 and plunged full on into the light bulb, etc.
Wifey started out in life with a degree in psychology and a job as a state-paid social worker. Her specialization was in vocational testing. In order to make ends meet, she took a part-time second job at a credit call center. Within a short time, the credit people offered her a full-time job at better pay, enough she could actually live on. That was 35 years ago . . . the rest is history. She started out with the best intentions, but couldn't live on a social workers salary. She's not a CEO and while well-paid, is pretty far down the GE totem pole. She is gone out of state all week long and only home on weekends, not a life-style we recommend to anybody. She would be the first to agree with you about over-paid executives. Nothing you say would offend. As Edward Abbey wrote: "Capitalism: Growth for the sake of growth -- the ideology of the cancer cell." We're both old hippies. John > From: gbogan...@charter.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:59:39 -0500 > > John, > > You may be right about J.P. Morgan contracting with Edison for a metered > power invention. I know that Edison spent time developing several systems > for metering DC power (quite different from the present system we use for > metering AC power). He came up with at least one system that involved an > electro-chemical meter that essentially plated one metal from one electrode > to another. By weighing the electrodes, the amount of current passing thru > the meter could be determined. Edison did a lot of development work under > contract. In fact, Edison is remembered today among the technically > oriented establishment as the inventor of the research and R&D laboratory > concepts. Before Edison, technical research was primarily done by > independent inventors like Edison. His primary motivator in his career was > inventing. He always referred to himself as an inventor, not a scientist or > engineer. Toward that end, he developed tools and procedures that aided in > inventing things. When he was able to accrue enough funding, the natural > evolution of that disposition was to invent the "invention shop". At Menlo > Park and again at West Orange, he had people employed for the sole purpose > of researching ideas (pure research) and in trying to find ways to employ > those ideas in the making of practical products (research and development). > He was the first employer to do this in history, and thus became the > inventor of the R&D laboratory. > > I'm sitting here biting my tongue so that I don't say anything more on > the subject of executives at big corporations. Such as the fact that CEO > actually refers to the CRIMINALLY EXCESSIVELY OVERPAID. > > I forgot to comment earlier on the price of that Edison dynamo on > Craigslist. There are collectors of early electric motors and related > paraphernalia who would probably know much better about the worth of this > piece. But I have seen such items go for this kind of price on eBay. I'm > sure its value depends on its particular model and condition, but this is > probably a ballpark value for it these days. > > Greg Bogantz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Maeder" <appywan...@hotmail.com> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:20 PM > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist > > > > Greg -- I am actually under the impression that Edison was approached and > contracted by J.P. Morgan to invent metered power and the practical > applications thereof. Speaking of "one of the biggest cash cows in Murkan > history" . . . my wife is (grudgingly) an executive with GEMoney (formerly > GE Credit)! John > > > From: gbogan...@charter.net > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist > > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:17:18 -0500 > > > > That's an Edison motor-dynamo. The design of it would date to the > > invention > > of the incandescent lamp in 1879 or thereabouts, so the 1882 patent date > > is > > probably right. Edison had to invent the entire power generation, > > distribution, and consumer product line of products right along with the > > lamp to ensure that there was a market for the lamp products. He > > literally > > had to invent the entire market for distributed-power electricity in the > > home and much of industry and small businesses. Most people either don't > > know this or have forgotten it in all the hoopla over the lamp and the > > phonograph. Unlike Rockefeller and Vanderbilt in his own gilded age, and > > Bill Gates, Rupert Murdock, and all the other fat capitalist pigs of our > > modern Second Gilded Age (have YOUR wages kept up with inflation? > > Murdock's > > has and plenty more), Edison wasn't in business to get filthy, stinking > > rich. He could have EASILY done so with several of his inventions, the > > lamp > > and its accoutrements in particular. He wanted to invent things. He sold > > them so that he could afford to buy more equipment and personnel to invent > > more things. Consequently, he created the Edison General Electric > > Company, > > together with some fat cash investors to handle the drudgery of dealing > > with the whole lamp and power distribution business. When he needed more > > cash for his laboratory, he sold out his interest in the company to the > > fat > > butts, they dropped the "Edison" from the company name, and they went on > > to > > create one of the biggest cash cows in Murkan history. > > > > Greg Bogantz > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Maeder" <appywan...@hotmail.com> > > To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:02 PM > > Subject: [Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist > > > > > > > > Here's an interesting piece of Edisonia . . . is this as early as the > > patent > > indicates? Don't know if the price is good or not. 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Thank you, George ----- Original Message ----- From: Hawthorn's Antique Audio To: Maillist Phono-L Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: [Phono-L] New auction list now available Hi Everyone, Auction 122 - Spring Fever, is now available either as regular printed booklet by mail or by email in PDF format. Some of the highlights of this large auction are: * Brown wax cylinders * 7, 8 and 9 inch early discs * Victor Monarch and Grand Prize records * Vintage popular and jazz sheet music * A collection of unusual 1920s labels * Historical, personality and popular vocal 78s * A selection of "mini" records, all smaller than 10 inches * Record catalogs, books, magazines and promotional items * More Jazz and Blues rarities from the Elwood collection * Hundreds of regular jazz and blues 78s * Jazz books, biographies and discographies * Dance bands from the 1920s and 1930s * Pre-war country and hillbilly records * A group of jazz 10" LPs * Rhythm & Blues and Rock 78s * Movie and TV stars on record * Classical selections - both acoustic and electric * Early operatic complete sets * Classical related books and magazines * Popular and classical Edison Diamond Discs * A good selection of 2 and 4 minute cylinders * And the highlight - more Edison Diamond Discs, brand new and unplayed, from an early Edison dealer's new/old stock (including many electrics) Interested? 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