Oh, The horrors! A Victor repairman caught with a Columbia reproducer 
tool.  Might have something to do with trying to make a living, maybe? 
He might have been to sneak out in the dead of night to repair Edison 
machines on the sly, cash only please.

[email protected] wrote:
> I have the Victor manuals for repairing the Exhibition and No. 2 sound 
> boxes.  The manuals show all the tools, and there is nothing remotely 
> like this tool shown.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Bob wrote:
> 
>> I can't see how this is a Victor tool.  The spaner wrenches and hex 
>> wrenches fit all the parts on a Columbia reproducer that need to be 
>> removed or adjusted when it is serviced.  Other than the screw driver 
>> blade, nothing else will fit a Victor reproducer.
>> RMV
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Reproducer Tool//
>>
>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 3/20/2008 3:51:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> I  uploaded the pictures that Bob emailed to my webpage. Here is a  
>>> link:
>>>
>>> http://www.victrolaguy.com/misc/RMV1.htm
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a Victor tool, I found it once in an old time  (Vic) 
>>> repairman's shop.
>>>
>>> Allen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From [email protected]  Thu Mar 20 16:35:33 2008
From: [email protected] (BruceY)
Date: Thu Mar 20 16:34:52 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Graphophone Model AH Governor control
Message-ID: <002401c88ae3$19777e90$6401a...@user52c8f93503>

I just purchased a Columbia Model AH 2nd Style Graphophone. It looks really 
nice and appears to be all original. The only thing I am having trouble with is 
how to set the little plunger in the front of the machine which is part of the 
governor control, and which I presume acts to turn the machine on and off. Any 
assistance anyone can give would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,

Bruce
From [email protected]  Thu Mar 20 18:12:36 2008
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Thu Mar 20 18:12:47 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Reproducer Tool//
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 
In a message dated 3/20/2008 6:40:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I have  the Victor manuals for repairing the Exhibition and No. 2 sound   
boxes.  The manuals show all the tools, and there is nothing  remotely  
like this tool shown.



===========
That's certainly a good point. I will try to find this device downstairs  and 
possibly scan it for group evaluation. Much thanks!
 
Allen
 



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From [email protected]  Thu Mar 20 23:21:41 2008
From: [email protected] (ger)
Date: Thu Mar 20 22:21:51 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinders not Edison, but whose?
Message-ID: <001d01c88b1b$d44ca5f0$6c9fe...@ger1>

Can someone help me with these records, please? I have books on Edison and EBA 
records, but nothing on these. The boxes say: Everlasting, Indestructible, 
Oxford, Columbia. The records, however, look VERY similar.

They have a flat top, are either 2 or 4 min and with different boxes. The only 
differences I see in the records themselves, is in the way the patent date is 
written: 
PAT'D. July 29,'02 
PAT. July 29, 1902    4M (the latter I'm sure means a 4 min record...it's in a 
4 min labeled box)

Since they are in different boxes, I don't know which is which, or whose. :) 
Or are they all RELATED?? 
A couple have tops which correspond to boxes. A few are pictured at the 
following link:
http://www.flickr.com:80/photos/gerdan/sets/72157604184933847/

Thanks!
Ger

ger55 on ebay; [email protected]
Victorian Glass Plus!
http://www.tias.com/stores/vgpp
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glass_antique_and_old/
From [email protected]  Fri Mar 21 05:31:07 2008
From: [email protected] (John Maeder)
Date: Fri Mar 21 05:31:15 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinders not Edison, but whose?
In-Reply-To: <001d01c88b1b$d44ca5f0$6c9fe...@ger1>
References: <001d01c88b1b$d44ca5f0$6c9fe...@ger1>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>


Try these links:
http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/history-indestructible.php

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/history-everlasting.php

The entire site is quite wonderful!  John

> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:21:41 -0500
> Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinders not Edison, but whose?
> 
> Can someone help me with these records, please? I have books on Edison and 
> EBA records, but nothing on these. The boxes say: Everlasting, 
> Indestructible, Oxford, Columbia. The records, however, look VERY similar.
> 
> They have a flat top, are either 2 or 4 min and with different boxes. The 
> only differences I see in the records themselves, is in the way the patent 
> date is written: 
> PAT'D. July 29,'02 
> PAT. July 29, 1902    4M (the latter I'm sure means a 4 min record...it's in 
> a 4 min labeled box)
> 
> Since they are in different boxes, I don't know which is which, or whose. :) 
> Or are they all RELATED?? 
> A couple have tops which correspond to boxes. A few are pictured at the 
> following link:
> http://www.flickr.com:80/photos/gerdan/sets/72157604184933847/
> 
> Thanks!
> Ger
> 
> ger55 on ebay; [email protected]
> Victorian Glass Plus!
> http://www.tias.com/stores/vgpp
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glass_antique_and_old/
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From [email protected]  Fri Mar 21 11:04:03 2008
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Fri Mar 21 11:03:02 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Reproducer Tool//more
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 
In a message dated 3/20/2008 7:32:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Oh, The  horrors! A Victor repairman caught with a Columbia reproducer 
tool.   Might have something to do with trying to make a living, maybe? 
He might  have been to sneak out in the dead of night to repair Edison 
machines on  the sly, cash only please.


==========
ok, I actually found something i was looking for... the gizmo in question.  
It appears exactly as the scan... _http://www.victrolaguy.com/misc/RMV1.htm_ 
(http://www.victrolaguy.com/misc/RMV1.htm) 
 
  From left to right, it measures 4-3/8" to the blade --  the  other (outer 
or cross) dimension is 2-1/2".
 
 There are 2 sets of 'pins', a set to each side. One  span is just under 
2-3/16" - from center to center (of the  pinions).
  The other set (span, on the other side) is 1-3/4"  (c to c). The "pins" 
themselves are 5/16" high (protrusions).
 
  There are no mfg markings.
 
  If any other info wanted, let me know. Now that I look  at closely, there 
is nothing particularly Victor about it, and i do not see  this "tool" in the 
Victor manuals. It is, however, very well made.
 
  The repairman in question told me years ago that he  worked for 
Bloomingdales Dept Store in Manhattan, and had a  "route."
 
Allen
 _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) 
 
 
 



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From [email protected]  Fri Mar 21 12:18:29 2008
From: [email protected] (Brown's Antique Phonographs)
Date: Fri Mar 21 12:28:10 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison C-4 Radio Phonograph for sale
Message-ID: <5e2d01c88b88$59d82610$0502a...@matt>

I've had it for sale for some time now, but now it's really got to go....

Pictures of this C-4 can be found here: 
http://www.misterphonograph.com/EdisonDD.htm

Cosmetically not perfect, but very nice (see pics). Missing needle cup. Chassis 
was restored by Chuck Azzalina - this one sounds amazing. Chuck told me it's 
one of the best C-4's he's heard. I'm out of room, and I have a C-2, so this 
one's got to go.

If interested, please call 610-898-1449 and leave a message, or email me at 
[email protected]. Please do not reply to this email address.

Also for sale: Edison H-19 w/ fleur-de-lis grille in mahogany, Brooks Automatic 
in mahogany, Lundstrom Converto cabinet, Starr upright in oak (needs some 
work), Edison CC-32 (Beautiful!), Edison IU-19 (Italian Umbrian), and a very 
nice Columbia BE machine.

I'm open to offers.

Will gladly provide pics, details, prices, etc. to anyone seriously interested.

Thanks!

Matt Brown
From [email protected]  Fri Mar 21 13:41:43 2008
From: [email protected] (Bruce Mercer)
Date: Fri Mar 21 13:42:56 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Needle Cuts
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <004901c88b93$f972c1c0$5ca6b...@vaio>

Yes to all of the above. A C-2 I purchased some time ago had both the 
12"Roth and Martinelli records (among others) in the albums along with a 
bunch of pop black with gold lettering on the labels. Ha anyone ever seen a 
10" classical with a gold label with black lettering?  Needle cuts, as far 
as I remember were sold from mid July to mid October 1929. They were 
superior sounding records.
Bruce 

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