Couple of things here. Norton / Semantec is the big name test case company for all of the bad guys. They test their latest attack againt this product. The best AV hits about 85% on a good day with a tial wind. They are mostly very poor on any of the trojans and the java script code tricks are just not dealt with. Thee are other products that are better but require user knowledge and input.
It may be a real pain but passwords should be both upper and lower case with a control character, those are on the shift top row of the keyboard. The microsoft browser and email programs are very popular targets. Because of this fact, using an alternate browser and email pogram reduces your exposure. Michael Graziano wrote: > In my case, I think a keystroke recorder was temporarily installed when I > mistyped a website. If I remember correctly, it was some variation of > BabiesRus.com. My virus definitions were a week old, but Norton caught > something a few days afterwards, after my definition update. Whatever the > page was, it opened close to thirty other websites in new windows almost > instantaneously. It's always better to google a website you're unsure of > then try to guess at the site. > > My passwords are always random numbers and letters. In fact, I have an > excel spreadsheet I use to generate 8 character random passwords (letters > and numbers, but only lowercase). I can modify for upper and lower, but > that always seems too much work to remember. If anyone wants it, I'll be > happy to send it along. It's a small spreadsheet. > From [email protected] Tue Mar 25 08:51:27 2008 From: [email protected] (Loran Hughes) Date: Tue Mar 25 08:51:46 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] OTHER WAYS for Possible Ebay fraudulent listing In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <20080324161843.bmri11293.aarprv06.charter....@your4dacd0ea75> <000601c88dd5$1772d050$7501a...@albert> <[email protected]> <29357ce79d6f4eb3abd33ce3c2d78...@dellxps410> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I'll agree - except to add that if you have a keylogger lurking on your PC, you're wasting your time until you get your machine completely clean. Now the dirty little secret... there are no anti virus products that are 100% effective. AV companies are always playing catch up to the bad guys. There are a lot of infected web sites out there that will infect your computer simply by you browsing to that page. So practice safe computing - if you must use a Windows PC, use an alternate browser like Firefox or Opera. If you're on high speed internet, buy a router with a built-in firewall. Keep your AV subscription up to date and do a complete system scan at least once a week. It isn't paranoid to think they are out to get you... because they are. Loran On Mar 25, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Ken Danckaert wrote: > Another word on passwords. Don't use a name spelled backward. The > dictionary attacks will find those too. A word in another language > is also > no good. A lot of people will try to be smart by substituting a "3" > for an > "E" or a "1" for and "I", etc. The programs also look for this > substitution. It is best to have a minimum of eight characters and a > mixture of letters, numbers and special characters (@#$$%^). > Everything > else has been covered pretty well. > > Regards, > > Ken Danckaert > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Norman Bruderhofer <[email protected] > > > wrote: > >> Exactly, but be sure to use a -secure- password. No names, bdays or >> so but a nice and cryptic style. >> I bet that most hijacked accounts were 'protected' by too simple >> passwords that could be easily determined by using brute force >> attacks (dictionaries). It really makes sense to put attention to >> that little security bar. And always make a password unique, never >> use it twice (e.g. eBay acct & paypal). >> >> >> At 23:25 24.03.2008, you wrote: >>> Like I said, change your passwords regularly. >>> From [email protected] Tue Mar 25 09:02:30 2008 From: [email protected] (BruceY) Date: Tue Mar 25 09:01:33 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia/Talkophone Message-ID: <007601c88e91$a2db6af0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> In regards to the Columbia AH Disc Graphophone that was recently purchased with a Talkophone reproducer, elbow and Horn: Since the Talkophone Company was sued out of existence and then from what I have been told, Columbia bought the remaining stock of the Company, is it at all possible that Columbia utitlized the parts of the defunct Talkophone Company and produced and sold AH's and other rigid style tone arm Graphophones with the remaining Talkophone reproducers, aluminum elbows and Black and Brass 21" horns? or is this wishful thinking? Bruce From [email protected] Tue Mar 25 09:05:39 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Tue Mar 25 09:12:42 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia/Talkophone Message-ID: <[email protected]> In a message dated 3/25/2008 12:03:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In regards to the Columbia AH Disc Graphophone that was recently purchased with a Talkophone reproducer, elbow and Horn: Since the Talkophone Company was sued out of existence and then from what I have been told, Columbia bought the remaining stock of the Company, is it at all possible that Columbia utitlized the parts of the defunct Talkophone Company and produced and sold AH's and other rigid style tone arm Graphophones with the remaining Talkophone reproducers, aluminum elbows and Black and Brass 21" horns? or is this wishful thinking? this is doubtful, since the Col AH dates from several years before Talkophone's demise (ca 1909). Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) From [email protected] Tue Mar 25 09:21:52 2008 From: [email protected] (BruceY) Date: Tue Mar 25 09:22:09 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia/Talkophone References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000901c88e94$56b55ed0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> I ask this, only because the Columbia Phonograph Companion only gives the date of first introduction of these machines, and I don't believe it gives a date of the last sale or production of them. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia/Talkophone > > In a message dated 3/25/2008 12:03:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > In regards to the Columbia AH Disc Graphophone that was recently > purchased > with a Talkophone reproducer, elbow and Horn: Since the Talkophone > Company was > sued out of existence and then from what I have been told, Columbia > bought > the remaining stock of the Company, is it at all possible that Columbia > utitlized the parts of the defunct Talkophone Company and produced and > sold AH's > and other rigid style tone arm Graphophones with the remaining Talkophone > reproducers, aluminum elbows and Black and Brass 21" horns? or is this > wishful > thinking? > > > this is doubtful, since the Col AH dates from several years before > Talkophone's demise (ca 1909). > > Allen > _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
