In a message dated 3/30/2008 6:19:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Edison wrote about this in his notes on July 3, 1878: "We find that the lattice girders some of which are weighted in middle acts as reeds and continue the vibration for a long time after the train has passed . . . We find that the diagonal cross rods vibrate strongly." ================ It is interesting to observe that Edison came to this recording business "backwards", i.e. he seems to have worked with the Phonautograph AFTER developing his own machine, whereas most people would look at the natural sequence as Scott first (recording), and then TAE (with reproduction). The Smithsonian's Phonautograph (still there) was supposedly purchased by them in 1866 from Rudolf Koenig for 500 francs. One wonders if Edison (visiting Wash DC) had ever remarked on that display prior to his invention of the phonograph. TAE seems to have come upon his own discovery 'ab initio,' from telephone diaphragms and telegraph repeaters, and not from Leon's machine... very ironic. Next, we will have Thomas Young's 'Vibrograph.' (1806). That may yield only the tones of a tuning fork. Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) From [email protected] Sun Mar 30 16:01:31 2008 From: [email protected] (john robles) Date: Sun Mar 30 16:02:14 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Siam Soo found at flea market Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hi guys A buddy of mine found a Siam Soo doll at a flea market today, the costume is not in good shape, paint is ok (I haven't seen it yet - that's his description. He wants to sell it. Int he Gadgets and Gizmos book it is indicated at $500-999. I am astonished. I assume that is in excellent condition. Any guesstimates at what value one would be if in good condition? I will get pics asap. Thanks! John Robles From [email protected] Sun Mar 30 16:45:49 2008 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Sun Mar 30 16:46:01 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Siam Soo found at flea market Message-ID: <[email protected]> In a message dated 3/30/2008 7:35:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: A buddy of mine found a Siam Soo doll at a flea market today, the costume is not in good shape, paint is ok (I haven't seen it yet - that's his description. ============ Do the platform legs fold up or are they rigid? This interesting doll was first designed by/for a woman, and then patented by a man named Converse (see PHP). The outer box is very desirable. Allen **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) From [email protected] Sun Mar 30 17:56:58 2008 From: [email protected] (Robert Wright) Date: Sun Mar 30 17:57:08 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Fw: EARLIEST recorded human voice?/more References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> It's probably worth mentioning that Edison may very well have never used, intended, nor even saw the phonautograph as a way of registering sound beyond the ability to simply measure it. It seems to be well documented that Scott had no intention of ever being able to reproduce sound from his invention. The connection between the two machines may seem obvious to us now, but I'm not so sure it would've been at the time, especially when Edison's goal with the phonograph was to be able to reproduce the sounds he recorded, which couldn't happen with the phonautograph for 150 more years. In that quest, the phonautograph was not only useless, but old news. The stroke of brilliance that belongs solely to Edison (as far as I've always known) is using a medium that was both pliant enough to take the audio and rigid enough to play it back. The further stroke was that of using a normally rigid medium that was made soft under easily repeatable conditions. Without optimizing the medium's relationship to the invention, no further progress would've been made. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > ================ > It is interesting to observe that Edison came to this recording > business > "backwards", i.e. he seems to have worked with the Phonautograph AFTER > developing his own machine, whereas most people would look at the natural > sequence > as Scott first (recording), and then TAE (with reproduction).
