for sure, I got bit by the bug and bought up as many as I could trying to 
complete the collection and I almost did, but have probably lost about half 
of my investment.  I am missing the Transformer and Queen for a Day.  I have 
to assume those are still worth a lot.  Al
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values


> Thanks for your interesting comment on the Vogues.  I agree with you on 
> the
> reason for the drop in value of the Wurlitzer 1015, but I am not so sure 
> the
> same argument applies to the Vogues.  The 1015's were bought and sold as
> entertainment devices, and the bars, etc. that bought them for 45s and CDs
> could care less if they were original or reproduction machines.  On the
> other hand, vogues were generally not bought for their music content, but
> rather as vintage collectibles.  Prior to eBay, collectors considered them
> to be "scarce" items, and most record collectors, I would think, would 
> have
> little interest in the reproductions.  Once eBay demonstrated to the hobby
> that they were rather plentiful, the prices started to drop to the current
> low values.  I don't know how well the reproduction Vogues are doing these
> days, but I don't see them advertised very much (although I don't look for
> them).  Whatever the reason for the price decline, Vogues don't look like
> good investments these days :)
>
> Ray
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert" <cenfin at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values
>
>
>> Ray, I think Ebay actually raised the value of vogues and there was a lot
>> of
>> activity for a long time on ebay. Many hit the market and it was not
>> unusual
>> to see them go for more than $100.   But the prices started dropping
>> quickly
>> when a lot of reproduction Vogues hit the market.  The repros looked
>> pretty
>> good and they were copies of some of the more desireable numbers.  I
>> compare
>> that to the Wurlitzer 1015 where originals used to sell for $12,000. 
>> With
>> the huge number of reproduction 1015s that played 45's and CD;s the value
>> of
>> originals dropped to $5000 to 6000.  I may be wrong but I dont think it
>> was
>> Ebay so much as the proliferation of reproductions.  Al Menashe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <wilenzick at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <phonolist at yahoogroups.com>; <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:55 PM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Vogue Picture Records values
>>
>>
>>> Around 10 to 15 years ago, most Vogues (except the rare 8 or 9 ones) 
>>> sold
>>> in the neighborhood of $100 or so.  With the advent of eBay, their value
>>> has dropped significantly.  It seems that most go for $20-$30 or less
>>> these days.  Value guides were available at one time, but now are
>>> worthless.  Are there any Vogue collectors on the list that would have a
>>> spreadsheet or other information on current values of these picture
>>> records?  Is there a factor, such as 1/4 or 1/3 that could be applied to
>>> the old values that would approximate the current value?  Thanks for any
>>> information..
>>>
>>> Ray Wilenzick
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