I just loved Al's jaunt down memory lane.  Thanks Al for that wonderful 
story.  In speaking with fellow collectors much older than I am, that is the 
way it 
used to be.  People had all original machines that they no longer needed or 
wanted.  Let's face it, by the end of the 1920s, people that had horn machines 
were wanting to give them away.  The horn phonograph was an 'eye sore' to many 
and the masses were wanting to get that new state of the art Victrola.  There 
were many Victor VI machines left in stores for a long time after the 
production run was over as people just did not want an ugly horn phonograph in 
their 
home.  That is why they are so rare today.

A friend of mine in his 80s has shared stories with me regarding several 
Victor VIs that he owns.  He said that it was not uncommon to go up north and 
find 
someone wanting to sell a nice 'All Original' Victor VI with a nice 'All 
Original' mahogany spear tip horn for $300.00!  It if was sitting on a cabinet, 
the seller would say, "What would you give me for cabinet?"

As we all know, Al's example, and the example that my friend shares are from 
long lost days of the past.  I will be fifty this year and my days of finding 
what those found in the 1960s are over.  I have been collecting now for about 
17 years.  In 1991, I purchased a table top Silvertone phonograph at the Barn 
Yard Flea Market In Columbia, S.C. from a wonderful couple that ran a local 
antique business for $185.00.  The machine, a beauty with some records, was my 
dream come true!  I took the machine home and played it for hours.  I still 
have it today.  The only thing that this purchase did however was spark the 
fire 
for more, and more, and more, and...well, you get it.  About 40 machines 
later, and thousands of records later, I am still in the market for more, more, 
and 
more machines.  Eventually this will have to stop, or my wife is going to 
leave me.  Maybe then I will seek out a psychiatri...@#!

One thing that has kept me from getting mislead and heading into bad 
investments is that I quickly joined a phonograph club with very knowledgeable 
people. 
 Not only did I learn (still am!) from them, but I have had the fortunate 
opportunity to buy some nice pieces from them.  They, the experts bought, and 
sold to me.  

As for originality, my most difficult challenge is fining original slotted 
cranks.  These fell off of the machines over the years and were unfortunately 
lost.  The machines have out lived the cranks.  I do have a very early Victor I 
with a nice reproduction brass bell horn.  I like the horn and am in no hurry 
to find an original.  I have a Victor III with a most gorgeous Don Gfel smooth 
oak horn.  Never would I consider taking this horn off to put an original on. 
 It just ain't gonna happen!

I have no problem with reproduction parts.  What I do have a problem with is 
people making a Victor horn machine out of a Victrola by nailing up the doors. 
 Another example is when people drill holes to make other parts fit.  This is 
where a not original phonograph becomes JUNK.  I really get a kick out of 
those so determined to make a nice and museum quality Trade Mark machine.  
There 
is one on ebay right now.  Let's face it, those are all gone!  The proper 
reproduction parts I can deal with.  The mutilation of machines and being 
dishonest and misleading the public, I can't.   

Again, as always, thanks to all that keep this group going and so 
enlightening!

Best to all and may you find that bargain!

Brantley
Williston, S.C.   </HTML>

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